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A few queries if I may regarding elephants...
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:00 am
by GrumblingGrognard
Howdy,
A few questions if I may…
1.) Do elephants count as "shock mounted" (it would appear not)?
2.) Do light spear (foot) and Impact foot both get a + POA against elephants (if they are not shock) which would generally cancel out the elephant POA?
2.) I realize heavy and scythed chariots are disordered within one MU of elephants…but it would also appear that they receive a + POA against elephants, is this the case?
Thanks,
GG
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:15 am
by madmike111
Elephants are not shock.
Yes the light sp works against elephants
Chariots don't work against elephants
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:52 pm
by daleivan
Yessir, LF with javelin and lt.spear may be the anti-elephant troop in the game. Of course, you have to get them into position to do so

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:59 pm
by nikgaukroger
Crossbows are quite useful against nellies as well IIRC.
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:33 pm
by hammy
daleivan wrote:Yessir, LF with javelin and lt.spear may be the anti-elephant troop in the game. Of course, you have to get them into position to do so

Javelin LF are pretty good if they are lobbing javelins. I wouldn't expect them to win a melee against elephants due to only getting half dice.
Okay...
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:29 pm
by GrumblingGrognard
Thanks,
I also noted that the shooting POA states
"any except bow or sling".
So
bow* get a POA of +1, but bow do not? Heck, I must admit excluding bow and sling at all has me a bit confused.
I just mentioned the chariots because it seemed odd to me they were excluded in the POA "limitations" and as I run LAPs with scythed chariots on occasion. Honestly I am looking for a target for these "cruise missiles of the ancient world". I would not expect my scythed chariots to actually 'win' mind you...but then again I never really expect them to win and they might just do enough with four on four dice at even POA on impact to make elephants a valid target of desparation.
GG
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:44 pm
by nikgaukroger
See P130 - Bow* use the same PoAs as Bow.
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:58 am
by madmike111
Played Indians vs Alex Macedonians a few days ago. The natural enemy of the elephant is the pike, it get a net +1 POA in both melee and impact. One pike unit in our game destroyed 3 elephant battle groups, plus a unit of clubmen for good measure.