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Cheesy Evade?

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:32 am
by mikekh
Last night we had the following situation.
A BG of skirmishers (S) in a 1 element wide column facing to the right as shown below. (The '-' symbols are just for indentation)

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----SSSS->
HHHHHH
A BG of heavy infantry (H), who were just out of charge range , advanced to within a 'fraction of an inch' of the skirmishers.

As it now stands if the heavies charge the skirmishers they can only evade to their rear, ie across the front of the heavies and likely to be caught.
My opponent decided, in his turn, to turn the skirmishers 180 and face to the left so that if I charged then an evade to his rear would take the skirmishers away from the front of the heavies. i.e they would evade to the right of the picture. We both thought it a bit of a cheesy move (but he did do it and they got clean away!)

Did we play this correctly? We both thought that the skirmishers should have been caught - the heavies were basically on top of them before they charged.
(I must point out that if the skirmishers had turned 90 to face the heavies and then evaded they would have collided with an enemy BG - hence why my opponent wanted to evade in the way he did.)

Cheers

Mike

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:11 am
by nikgaukroger
If you are charged in the flank or rear you can only evade away from the enemy - page 66.

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:41 am
by mikekh
nikgaukroger wrote:If you are charged in the flank or rear you can only evade away from the enemy - page 66.
Duhhh Sorry!
I read that several times... all I can say in my defence is that I'd spent the whole day with two very fractious children!!

:oops:

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:17 pm
by bigdamnhero
I wasnt that fractious - just because i won doesnt give you the right to call me a child!

Glad the rule is cleared up - we both felt it not right didnt we? Its not as if the LF got involved after that cheesy evade - aprt from helping route another of your heavy units with bow fire....ahem.

Trouble with being a genius Mike, is that you can miss the bleedin obvious!

Although you have the best response in FoG ive heard yet when asked if a unit of your HF were indeed in part rough terrain at initial set up...the response being 'shut up'.

I must try it at Ascot next year...best sporting opponent? :lol:

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:32 pm
by mikekh
Ah! Shutup!

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:17 pm
by Primarch
What ive found is that instead of turning your flank completely to the chargers to be, you just turn the line so they can still only contact the front of your BG, but you are MOSTLY facing a direction that you would run 90ish degrees away from them and still get clean away.


Hope that was clear as mud!!!


Clay

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:12 pm
by Brainsnaffler
These things can become a bit cloudy. I couldn't find anywhere that you can only evade once in a turn, and had a group of numidian light horse dodging around the battlefield like it was a draughts game :roll: :oops:

The more rules you fit into your head, the more they push the ones you know by heart out of your ear!

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:24 pm
by Jason_Langlois
evade once in a turn
Since all charges are declared before any evades are declared, you only get one chance to evade in an Impact phase, I'd think? How can you evade multiple times in a turn?

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:24 pm
by SirGarnet
Brainsnaffler wrote:These things can become a bit cloudy. I couldn't find anywhere that you can only evade once in a turn, and had a group of numidian light horse dodging around the battlefield like it was a draughts game :roll: :oops:
Each evading BG evades after all charges are properly declared, as provided in the sequence of pla, so they should not be bouncing all over with evades.

Mike