Slitherine

Hi,

Cursory glance noticed the following -

Early Scots Irish the optional troops heading has Attecotti so all the attecotti stats are one column to the left further then they should
Early pictish starter army is not legal (not enough spearmen)

Just in case no else has reported it the Alexandrian Macedonian starter army is illegal too (no compulsory Companions just Agema) and all the examples in the rule book which mention sliding are incorrect as well.

John

Is it out yet?
I've still got it listed as released 10 June on Amazon....

Looking at the last draft I saw, the Early Scots Irish looks OK but there it no text in the Optional troops box so the error may have snuck in there.

The Pict starter army is indeed wrong My mistake as I am supposed to check all the starter armies. It is probably due to a late change to the minima rather than anything else.

The Alex starter army error is one I have made a couple of times with lists when submitting entires to comps. Another thing to add to my points to note when checking.

What do yo umean about mentions of sliding being incorrect?

So is it out yet or not then ?


Steve P

Selfishly siezing on the thread .... any clues as to Pictish spearmen - Offensive or Defensive? .... and the minima, presumably more than the DBM of 17? Maybe 24? Thanks in advance for any insights.

stenic wrote:So is it out yet or not then ?

Not officially, but as usual the Ozzies have it before the release date.

rbodleyscott wrote: Not officially, but as usual the Ozzies have it before the release date.

Tsk tsk !! Next they'll expect the Ashes before they've even played for them.

Thanks Richard.

Steve P

malekithau wrote: Early pictish starter army is not legal (not enough spearmen)

Just in case no else has reported it the Alexandrian Macedonian starter army is illegal too (no compulsory Companions just Agema).

Darn it. Although strictly speaking the Starter Lists don't have to adhere to the main list, which is for Customised Lists. Obviously it would be preferable if they did, but as nobody is running 600 point tournaments at present, I am not sure it is worth rejigging them and putting them in as Errata - it might just confuse the beginners for whom the Starter Lists are intended.

Every one of the examples in the appendix that talks about a shift (sorry long day) ie evade with a shift is incorrect as they are all started within 6mu of the enmy they talk about full base widh wheer it should be up to half.

The picts are (for me) one of the picks of the book, them and Dacians. Dacians would be my choice though with impact foot, heavy weapons, good heavy cav and lots of skirmishers.

malekithau wrote:Every one of the examples in the appendix that talks about a shift (sorry long day) ie evade with a shift is incorrect as they are all started within 6mu of the enmy they talk about full base widh wheer it should be up to half.

Right I see what you are saying. The shifts you are considering are the limit of what you can do during the movement phase. Evades are specifically allowed a full base shift to avoid friends se P67.

If the Alexandrian starter list is not legal you should probably post some errata because when I first read it the first thing I noticed was there was no companions so I reread the customized list to see what I was missing and just assumed since the listing for companion cavalry says "Other Companion cavalry" it meant that Agema were considered companion cavalry and so could be used in lieu of companions to satisfy the compulsory 4 stands.

rbodleyscott wrote:

stenic wrote:So is it out yet or not then ?

Not officially, but as usual the Ozzies have it before the release date.

It looks like you should just make a small production run, sell it to the Ozzies first, let them tell you all the typos, then fix them and send out the good copies to the rest of us.

Thanks hammy and here i was thinking the rules for shifts are actually in the rules for shifts ...

[quote="rbodleyscott"][quote="malekithau"]
Early pictish starter army is not legal (not enough spearmen)

Just in case no else has reported it the Alexandrian Macedonian starter army is illegal too (no compulsory Companions just Agema).[/quote]

Darn it. Although strictly speaking the Starter Lists don't have to adhere to the main list, which is for Customised Lists. Obviously it would be preferable if they did, but as nobody is running 600 point tournaments at present, I am not sure it is worth rejigging them and putting them in as Errata - it might just confuse the beginners for whom the Starter Lists are intended.[/quote][/quote]

Richard, I think it is important that the starter lists are corrected to be legal. As it happens I was planning to run a FoG introductory competition at 600 points locally later this year. I would have assumed that any starter list would have been legal. Also, as someone else mentioned, it can lead to confusion between the example and the meaning of the list if the published starter is wrong (wargamers being very literal people). So far you have been establishing a good rep. for openness and responsiveness, it would be a shame to not put these in the errata. Some people might 'misunderstand' your motives.