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LF charge

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:04 pm
by zeitoun
Hi,

last night we have got an interesting situation,

LF (A)

LF(B)

MF (in terrain )

What's happen if the LF (A) is charging LF(B) and if the MF is in charge range of the LF ( A) and LF (B) evade through MF?

Does the LF(A ) Stopped at 1mu, or must he charge the MF because this one is in terrain?

Re: LF charge

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:22 am
by petedalby
Hi Olivier - this is covered on Page 64.

The LF will halt 1 MU away from the MF unless it took a CMT to charge them initially - probably not a good idea.

Hope that helps.

Re: LF charge

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:21 am
by ravenflight
petedalby wrote:probably not a good idea.
Well... let me tell you about the time I evaded a MF charging unit with my LF, who were promptly caught and defeated and routed the MF, killing a general in the process...

Re: LF charge

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:46 am
by GKChesterton1976
ravenflight wrote:
petedalby wrote:probably not a good idea.
Well... let me tell you about the time I evaded a MF charging unit with my LF, who were promptly caught and defeated and routed the MF, killing a general in the process...
I did that to poor Mitchell in my first ever playtest of FOG all those years ago - my Parthian MF city militia caught his LH in the rear - it was glorious

Re: LF charge

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 7:52 am
by zeitoun
petedalby wrote:Hi Olivier - this is covered on Page 64.

The LF will halt 1 MU away from the MF unless it took a CMT to charge them initially - probably not a good idea.

Hope that helps.
Hi Pete,

but P64, it is not said that a LF need to pass a CMT to charge a MF in terrain..
First bullet: LF cannot charge or intercept unbroken non skirmishers "in open terrain"...

Re: LF charge

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 8:47 am
by ravenflight
tamerlane wrote:
ravenflight wrote:
petedalby wrote:probably not a good idea.
Well... let me tell you about the time I evaded a MF charging unit with my LF, who were promptly caught and defeated and routed the MF, killing a general in the process...
I did that to poor Mitchell in my first ever playtest of FOG all those years ago - my Parthian MF city militia caught his LH in the rear - it was glorious
Adrian, the thing is that my LF defeated the MF.

Disrupted LF (because they were caught in the rear) won the combat at -- vs ++ with less than 1/2 the dice, as a result of that the MF disrupted, when I killed the general they fragmented, then in the melee phase they routed.

Was a wonderful thing.

Unless you were the MF or the General I guess.

Re: LF charge

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:51 am
by petedalby
Hi Pete,

but P64, it is not said that a LF need to pass a CMT to charge a MF in terrain..
First bullet: LF cannot charge or intercept unbroken non skirmishers "in open terrain"...
Oh - I see what you mean. :oops:

LH have to pass a CMT - there is no mention of this requirement for LF if the enemy are in terrain. Amazing - I've never spotted that before.

So going back to your OP it would appear that the LF have to charge into the MF. Unless anyone else knows of a good reason why not?

Re: LF charge

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:33 pm
by zeitoun
petedalby wrote: Oh - I see what you mean. :oops:

LH have to pass a CMT - there is no mention of this requirement for LF if the enemy are in terrain. Amazing - I've never spotted that before.

So going back to your OP it would appear that the LF have to charge into the MF. Unless anyone else knows of a good reason why not?
I've never spotted that before too.. :oops: :wink:

so , IMO, The LF must charge the MF if all the LF are also in terrain. If any part of the LF are in open they must stop at 1MU.

Re: LF charge

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:47 pm
by zoltan
zeitoun wrote: so , IMO, The LF must charge the MF if all the LF are also in terrain. If any part of the LF are in open they must stop at 1MU.
I don't see why it makes any difference whether or not the charging LF are in terrain or in the open. The key point is that the MF must be in terrain to qualify as a charge target of the LF.

Re: LF charge

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:52 pm
by zeitoun
because, a LF not totaly in terrain must evade if he is charged by non skirmish troops.. ... So IMO if the LF are partially in open he cannot charge.