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Storm of Arrows:: War of the Roses English Armies
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:35 am
by Claudius
On p. 16 of Storm of Arrows, it states: "Tudor armies cannot include ... pikemen."
Henry VII armies did have mercenary pikemen - as described in various historical sources.
So the stated limitation on pikemen in Tudor armies is historically incorrect.
Suggest that the army rule be changed to allow pikemen in Tudor armies.
Thanks/Cheers
Re: Storm of Arrows:: War of the Roses English Armies
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:59 am
by rbodleyscott
Claudius wrote:Henry VII armies did have mercenary pikemen - as described in various historical sources.
At what dates?
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:05 am
by Claudius
At Bosworth Field 1485.
Richard III army vs. Tudor army
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:38 am
by rbodleyscott
Claudius wrote:At Bosworth Field 1485.
Richard III army vs. Tudor army
I gather that the evidence for this is relatively recent and is based on a fragment of a contemporary letter from a pikeman in Henry's army which may or may not be genuine.
I must admit we missed this in writing the list.
Obviously when we do revise the lists at some point in the future, we need to allow Henry Tudor a pike option - unless the letter is proved to be a forgery.
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:11 pm
by Claudius
Thanks
Here's the reference book:
Michael K. Jones, "Bosworth 1485: Psychology of a Battle", Tempus Publishing, Stroud, Gloucestershire, 2002.
An interesting treatment of the Bosworth Field events and activities.
See:
http://www.amazon.com/Bosworth-1485-Psy ... 0752423347
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:14 am
by nikgaukroger
rbodleyscott wrote:
Obviously when we do revise the lists at some point in the future, we need to allow Henry Tudor a pike option - unless the letter is proved to be a forgery.
And assuming there were numbers to justify a BG of course.