Tanks
Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 1:13 am
I would like to specify a few problems(I think) abot the tanks in the game.(Although some may be mistaken. Please feel free to correct it.)
1.) Armor
The King Tiger in real life only had 80 mm for its side and rear amor.
The Tiger I had 100 mm of frontal armor not 130.
The panzer IV was less armored than a Sherman. Note: I have heard that Panzer IV hull had 80 mm of armor but the turret itself was relatively weak. I have heard that even a Stuart could pen the turret of a Panzer Iv although I may be mistaken.
A Cromwell should be less armored than a Sherman due to lack of angling.
I'm pretty sure a Churchill had more armor than just 100-80-80 and the Churchill should also have equal values as the Churchill crocodile as they are both the same tank except the other one has a flame thrower.(I think it should have more than 120. Maybe around 140-160.) It should also be noted that the Churchill was the most heavily armored Allied vehicle of WWII ever fielded.
Sherman Firefly should have the same armor as the sherman as the Firefly has 60 to the side while the sherman only has 40. I think it should have the same value as the Sherman as they are both the same tank.
The Sherman Jumbo should have more armor than 120(maybe around 150-160 due to the angled armor). The Jumbo's frontal armor could not be penetrated by a panzer iv, tiger i,88mm gun, or 75 mm gun at any range Although it could be penetrated by the Panther with difficulty but The King Tiger could penetrate its armor with relative ease.
I'm pretty sure the wolverine and jackson had definitely more than 60. Sure it had 60 mm of frontal armor but it was angled so it should have been thicker much like the how the Panther's armor works(Its armor is only 80mm but due to angling increases its effectiveness to140mm).
2.) Penetration
The 17 pdr should have better penetration values than the Panther's L70.
The 90 mm of the Jackson should have similar penetration values as the Tiger
The Hellcat's 76 mm was more powerful than the Wolverine not the same. The hellcat used the 76 mm M1 while the Wolverine used the 3-inch M7. They both fired the same round. However, the M1 had a better barrel so it performed better than the m7.
The panzer IV's cannon is too strong as it can penetrate a Jumbo two tiles away with around 25% penetration chance. It should be 0%.
The 6 pdr should have better penetration than the Sherman's 75.
3.) Mobility
The Tiger shouldn't be as mobile as it is portrayed in the game.
The M4A3E8 or the Sherman 76 should have better mobility than the Sherman due to being fitted with HVSS suspension. Note:The Sherman's 76 is quite similar to the Hellcat's gun in that it was armed with the 76 mm M1A2. This should be its stats not unless the tank used is the M4A2 76 mm but I doubt that there were M4A2 tanks during the later days of WW2 like the Battle of the Bulge, most would have been Easy-Eights(M4A3E8).
These are all the things that I would like to point out. Maybe to increase the fun of the game, how about adding a few more tanks like the M3 Lee or Grant. The British used them in Africa.
Also to point out that the Panzer II doesn't fire like in the game. It should have the same gun as the 8rad and should have the same gun values too.
1.) Armor
The King Tiger in real life only had 80 mm for its side and rear amor.
The Tiger I had 100 mm of frontal armor not 130.
The panzer IV was less armored than a Sherman. Note: I have heard that Panzer IV hull had 80 mm of armor but the turret itself was relatively weak. I have heard that even a Stuart could pen the turret of a Panzer Iv although I may be mistaken.
A Cromwell should be less armored than a Sherman due to lack of angling.
I'm pretty sure a Churchill had more armor than just 100-80-80 and the Churchill should also have equal values as the Churchill crocodile as they are both the same tank except the other one has a flame thrower.(I think it should have more than 120. Maybe around 140-160.) It should also be noted that the Churchill was the most heavily armored Allied vehicle of WWII ever fielded.
Sherman Firefly should have the same armor as the sherman as the Firefly has 60 to the side while the sherman only has 40. I think it should have the same value as the Sherman as they are both the same tank.
The Sherman Jumbo should have more armor than 120(maybe around 150-160 due to the angled armor). The Jumbo's frontal armor could not be penetrated by a panzer iv, tiger i,88mm gun, or 75 mm gun at any range Although it could be penetrated by the Panther with difficulty but The King Tiger could penetrate its armor with relative ease.
I'm pretty sure the wolverine and jackson had definitely more than 60. Sure it had 60 mm of frontal armor but it was angled so it should have been thicker much like the how the Panther's armor works(Its armor is only 80mm but due to angling increases its effectiveness to140mm).
2.) Penetration
The 17 pdr should have better penetration values than the Panther's L70.
The 90 mm of the Jackson should have similar penetration values as the Tiger
The Hellcat's 76 mm was more powerful than the Wolverine not the same. The hellcat used the 76 mm M1 while the Wolverine used the 3-inch M7. They both fired the same round. However, the M1 had a better barrel so it performed better than the m7.
The panzer IV's cannon is too strong as it can penetrate a Jumbo two tiles away with around 25% penetration chance. It should be 0%.
The 6 pdr should have better penetration than the Sherman's 75.
3.) Mobility
The Tiger shouldn't be as mobile as it is portrayed in the game.
The M4A3E8 or the Sherman 76 should have better mobility than the Sherman due to being fitted with HVSS suspension. Note:The Sherman's 76 is quite similar to the Hellcat's gun in that it was armed with the 76 mm M1A2. This should be its stats not unless the tank used is the M4A2 76 mm but I doubt that there were M4A2 tanks during the later days of WW2 like the Battle of the Bulge, most would have been Easy-Eights(M4A3E8).
These are all the things that I would like to point out. Maybe to increase the fun of the game, how about adding a few more tanks like the M3 Lee or Grant. The British used them in Africa.
Also to point out that the Panzer II doesn't fire like in the game. It should have the same gun as the 8rad and should have the same gun values too.