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Immortal Fire - Classical Greek List - Undrilled or Drilled

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:17 pm
by JerryA92656
In the Classical Greek list there are 2 cavalry entries that say "Undrilled or Drilled". Does this mean I get the choice between undrilled or drilled but the cost is exactly the same regardless of the one I choose/

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:26 pm
by shall
Mine only has LH entries for that - which are the same points anyway

Are you sure you haven't misread it?

Si

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:47 am
by JerryA92656
You are correct. Light horse not cavalry. However my question still applies. What does it mean?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:57 am
by Draka
If you read through the rules very carefully, it will become obvious that unlike other rulesets, cavalry does not mean "man on horse". There are in fact four categories of this - Light Horse (which can only be skirmishers and thus do not use drilled/undrilled), Knights, catafracts and everything else - which is the category of cavalry. It does get confusing at first - but see page 128. Only the latter three categories have to worry about - and pay for - drilled status.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:33 pm
by lpgamble
>Knights, catafracts and everything else - which is the category of cavalry. It does get confusing at first - but see >page 128. Only the latter three categories have to worry about - and pay for - drilled status.

I disagree with this. If you look at the appendix for point costs drilled costs an extra point, even if your LH. Now whether there is such an animal as Drilled LH is a different question.

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:55 pm
by ars_belli
lpgamble wrote:If you look at the appendix for point costs drilled costs an extra point, even if your LH.
I am afraid that is incorrect. At the top of the Points Values table on p. 149, it clearly says "Extra if Drilled unless LF or LH." Perhaps you were thinking of Unprotected troops, a distinct and separate classification.

Cheers,
Scott

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:00 pm
by lpgamble
Dang dont have the book in front of me, but I didn't write down an exception on the Drilled point cost line in my spreadsheet. Thats going to mess up my template if I left of exception text for that column. Oh well yet another =if column to add.