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Charge distances and CMT's not to

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:36 am
by philqw78
Shock troops test not to charge in varying circumstances. In these circumstances their charge distance is taken as +2MU. Does this mean that MF shock troops 6MU, or HF shock 5MU, from troops they would normally charge must test not to, or just charge of their own free will once within 6/5MU with little chance of impact.

TIA

phil

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:55 am
by shall
You've mixed up 2 different things

They test if enemy are in normal charge reach

This is the core rule

THEN

They do not test if the move might take MF out of terrain for example.

When considering when they don't have to charge you see if their max VMD would take them out of terrain if the target can evade

So the +2 MU only applies to deciding if they are an exception and allowed not to test

Si

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:00 am
by philqw78
Excellent

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:00 am
by sagji
shall wrote: They do not test if the move might take MF out of terrain for example.

When considering when they don't have to charge you see if their max VMD would take them out of terrain if the target can evade

So the +2 MU only applies to deciding if they are an exception and allowed not to test

Si
Not their max but any VMD - in some circumstances a max VMD would get them safely to a new terrain piece while a min VMD would leave them in the open, in this case they don't test.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:13 am
by shall
Indeed I was doing shorthand rather than rewriting the whole rulebook :wink:

All other rules apply but my posting gives you the critical think you have mixed up

Si

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:34 pm
by philqw78
You do though need to differentiate between charge range (the reason to test) and charge move distance (the reason not to test) to avoid any confusion and add more words to the rules for us rules lawyers to pick at.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:39 am
by shall
We are planning a special Rule Lawyers supplement full of apparently inconsistent concepts and ambiguous grammar especially for this niche market. I believe they will only be available from an underground shop in the West End. nd we may have John Cleese to provide the full 5 minute argument at a special FOG discount price. :lol: :wink: :roll:

Si

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:31 am
by sagji
shall wrote:We are planning a special Rule Lawyers supplement full of apparently inconsistent concepts and ambiguous grammar especially for this niche market. I believe they will only be available from an underground shop in the West End. nd we may have John Cleese to provide the full 5 minute argument at a special FOG discount price. :lol: :wink: :roll:

Si
"Was it the full half hour, or just the 5 minute argument you wanted?" :twisted:

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:11 pm
by magedoc
shall wrote:We are planning a special Rule Lawyers supplement full of apparently inconsistent concepts and ambiguous grammar especially for this niche market. I believe they will only be available from an underground shop in the West End. nd we may have John Cleese to provide the full 5 minute argument at a special FOG discount price. :lol: :wink: :roll:

Si
Will there be a special gold plated edition as well? :lol: