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Routing Question

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:23 pm
by Luddite
Firstly, apologies if this has been asked before (point me at the right thread!), but my search-fu has been weak all round at the moment, hence the question.

Routing is causing a little confusion for us at the moment, and we've scoured the book to find ourselves none-the-wiser. It may of course be hidden in plain view and my weak search-fu is doing me up like a kipper again (if so some page refs would be nice...cheers).

Now then, ROUTING.

How do routing BGs move?

What i mean is, do they maintain formation, have to make CMTs to maneuver around terrain/change formation (to get through gaps etc.).
OR, do they become a 'mass of elements', moving/changing formation etc. at will, to flee as quickly as possible? (this seems 'sensible', but can't find any rules for it)

Charging routers

The following situation occured in our last game.
A skirmish BG routed from enemy archers and headed off to the rear. They were however charged in the flank by an enemy cavalry unit two turns later before the commander with them had been able to rally them.

So, the question is...

What happens to a routed unit that is charged by a fresh enemy unit?
What charge reactions does the unit make?
What happens in the contact (impact/melee fought? What penalties?)

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We couldn't find anything in the rules about these issues so any help/advice you goodly fellows could offer would be much appreciated.

:D

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:52 pm
by shall
How do routing BGs move?

What i mean is, do they maintain formation, have to make CMTs to maneuver around terrain/change formation (to get through gaps etc.).
OR, do they become a 'mass of elements', moving/changing formation etc. at will, to flee as quickly as possible? (this seems 'sensible', but can't find any rules for it)


Turn the bases around as they stand 180 degrees and start in that formation. They stay in a formation throughout. They can however shift and fall back as evades in order to move around things, and if that doesn't suffice they burst through friends in their path and are destroyd if they cannot complete a rout move due to enemy.
Charging routers

The following situation occured in our last game.
A skirmish BG routed from enemy archers and headed off to the rear. They were however charged in the flank by an enemy cavalry unit two turns later before the commander with them had been able to rally them.

So, the question is...

What happens to a routed unit that is charged by a fresh enemy unit?
What charge reactions does the unit make?
What happens in the contact (impact/melee fought? What penalties?)
There is no normal melee. The charger makes contact as snormal and conforms at the manouvre stage. In the JAP the routed BG turns 180 away from the contacting BG and routs in that direciton with a VMD, the chargers pursue them as normal. If they are in cotnact after the pursuit a base is removed. All very simple. No fighting. No charge reaction. Its soemthing I often do with LH to finish a BG off in fact. If you hit it from the flnak or rear you may change its direction of rout.

Si

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:11 pm
by Luddite
Excellent,

Cheers for that; very useful.

Is this in the rules anywhere? (and if so can i get a page ref.?)

:wink:

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:49 pm
by andy63
Hi Luddite,
Try page 107 under Routers and Pursuers!

Andy :)

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:38 pm
by Tiger
Would appreciate some clarity

I have a skirmish foot BG routing it has to pass through HF friends immediately to its rear.

LF can "pass through troops in any direction, therefore is this a burst through or an interpenetration?

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:16 pm
by hammy
Tiger wrote:Would appreciate some clarity

I have a skirmish foot BG routing it has to pass through HF friends immediately to its rear.

LF can "pass through troops in any direction, therefore is this a burst through or an interpenetration?
interpenetration

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:21 pm
by shall
interpenetrate anything you can with evades or routs.

burst through if you can't and cannot avoid by shift on 1 base/fall backs

Si