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WTF?
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:19 pm
by mupawa
Ok, first, explain how the brits in Egypt are supply level 4 whereas the axis never rise above level 3 even if they capture Egypt and Damscus? Second What does it mean that some technologies are "more expensive? than others? When do you pay? The lab cost?
Re: WTF?
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:29 am
by richardsd
the have supply from a minor capital
Re: WTF?
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:47 am
by mupawa
yeah but when the germans capture Damascus why aren't they bumped up?
Re: WTF?
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:31 pm
by Peter Stauffenberg
Minor power capitals only provide supply level 3. The Allies (only) can use Basra as a major supply source. That is why they have supply level 4 in Egypt and supply level 5 in Iraq.
Re: WTF?
Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:50 pm
by mupawa
Ok so how does the relative "cost" of technologies work?
Re: WTF?
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:50 am
by richardsd
I dont think people understand the question - do you mean labs or that unit cost is differential?
Re: WTF?
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:10 pm
by mupawa
I mean that ASW has a number 25 at the end of the line and organization has 50, increasing the number of labs seems to be constant regardless of which kind of tech you buy, so why is ASW "cheap" while organization is "expensive". What is the significance of cost and how do you pay it?
Re: WTF?
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:44 pm
by richardsd
right, you man for labs
its not a cost and you don't buy it - easy, there you go
they are difficulty settings (game) Staffenburg might know the formula that uses them
Re: WTF?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:41 am
by Peter Stauffenberg
The formula for technology progress is like.
Value. Calculated from a random number between 0-100
0-40 => value = 1.0
41-60 => value = 1.5
61-80 => value = 2.0
81-90 => value = 3.0
91-95 => value = 5.0
96-00 => value = 10.0
If not random research then value = 2.0 every time
Focus value = 0.5 if focus, 0.33 if balance, 0.25 if focus elsewhere
Tech progress = value * number of labs * focus value * 100 / tech cost
Let's say we have 3 labs in general. Tech cost for industry = 35, organization = 50 and radar = 25. We have focus on industry. For simplicity we have value = 2.0 for all example.
Tech progress industry = 2.0 * 3 * 0.5 * 100 / 35 = 8.5
Tech progress organization = 2.0 * 3 * 0.25 * 100 / 50 = 3
Tech progress radar = 2.0 * 3 * 0.25 * 100 / 25 = 6
So we see that radar has double the progress of organization. A higher tech cost means the progress is slower.
If you put focus on organization then tech progress would have been. industry = 4.23, general = 6, radar = 6
Re: WTF?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:47 am
by mupawa
My brain hurts
Re: WTF?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:54 am
by Peter Stauffenberg
That is why the formula is not mentioned in the game manual.
All you need to know is that the higher number for the tech cost means slower tech progress. So organization is the slowest tech to advance to the next levels with the value of 50. Radar is one of the fastest with the value of 25.
Re: WTF?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:55 am
by mupawa
OK now me understand
Re: WTF?
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 3:16 pm
by pk867
There is a chart in the manual and the players guide