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What has the point value been for the FoG tournaments?

You have for the moment:

- 650 points for 25mm tournament armies
- 800 points for 15 mm tournament armies
- 1000 points for double tournament

nicofig wrote:You have for the moment:

- 650 points for 25mm tournament armies
- 800 points for 15 mm tournament armies
- 1000 points for double tournament

We are now thinking of experimenting with 900 for 15mm double tournaments with a game time of 3hrs15mins until last pair of bounds is called, and 1000 if the game time is 3hrs45mins until last pair of bounds is called.

1000 points made for some very good games, but a fairly high proportion were uncompleted in 3hrs15mins+finish pair of bounds. This, however is not necessarily a bad thing if the games are enjoyable (which mine certainly were). The scoring system still gives a wide range of scores in unfinished games, and the end results do seem to reflect the skill and determination of the players. The usual suspects (=most skilled players) seem to gain the top few places every time, which is presumably a sign that the game system and scoring system are working well.

A points/time balance that resulted in all games being completed would not necessarily be a good thing as (a) it would not reward players who are capable of playing decisively without excessive caution, (b) it would leave a lot of players twiddling their thumbs having finished early.

Hi All,

that is the same as we are doing in the Northern Doubles League (EX-NDBML) next mouth that's April the first round with FoG in it so we will have DBM + DBMM and FoG games and the FoG games will be 900 pts Doubles 3.5 to 3.45 hrs games and only using armies from the books which are out 15 days before the deadline for your army list to be in by.

For more information go to the web site www.maws.org.uk it will be updated soon.


Yours in the Hobby "CB"

rbodleyscott wrote:

nicofig wrote:You have for the moment:

- 650 points for 25mm tournament armies
- 800 points for 15 mm tournament armies
- 1000 points for double tournament

We are now thinking of experimenting with 900 for 15mm double tournaments with a game time of 3hrs15mins until last pair of bounds is called, and 1000 if the game time is 3hrs45mins until last pair of bounds is called.

1000 points made for some very good games, but a fairly high proportion were uncompleted in 3hrs15mins+finish pair of bounds. This, however is not necessarily a bad thing if the games are enjoyable (which mine certainly were). The scoring system still gives a wide range of scores in unfinished games, and the end results do seem to reflect the skill and determination of the players. The usual suspects (=most skilled players) seem to gain the top few places every time, which is presumably a sign that the game system and scoring system are working well.

A points/time balance that resulted in all games being completed would not necessarily be a good thing as (a) it would not reward players who are capable of playing decisively without excessive caution, (b) it would leave a lot of players twiddling their thumbs having finished early.

That is very encouraging Richard. Early NZ tourneys will be 800 points and 4 hours which means that even with inexperience factored in we should get a fair number of results.

As experience levels rise some might find it preferable to keep points at around 800 and try and get three rounds in during a day which would mean facing more armies and more players.

Certainly it would be good to keep tabs on what develops around the gaming scene re the sweet spot for time/points etc.

Steve

I am going to be running a FoG tournament at the UK games Expo in June, this is only a one day comp and I would really like to get three games in so I am intending running it at 600 points in line with the starter armies and having played 600 points on a 6 by 4 table I will reduce the table size, probably to 4 by 3 but that needs testing. I expect that a result in 2 1/4 hours should easily be possible with those criteria.

In the US we are doing our first at 650 points. The idea is large unfamiliarity with rules as the pool of beta testers is much reduced not having any beta tournaments.

That said I had been playing 650 and just played 800 and they are very different games with pure quantity of figures. I think the 650 is the right way to go to get decisions in time while people are learning rules.

Thanks all I was reading the battle reports on Madaxeman and he one tournament with 800pts and one with 1000pts, so it kind of confused me. Our first game was with 1000pts and it was fun, but we are now practicing with 800.
Thanks Again,
Rich