Slitherine

Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:29 pm**

Hi all. I've ordered the rules but as a starter just want to order books for armies I've got. Are Late Romans in the Legions Triumphant book or are they covered by a different book... like Legions Not So Triumphant ?

Thanks,

Steve P

Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:51 pm**

Late Romans are in fact covered in Legions Triumphant. http://www.slitherine.com/games/fog_legionstriumphant. The book might also have been called Legions Fading Fast, as it goes all the way through the fall of the western Empire with the Foederate list (Patrician Roman to DBM players).

I have to wait for a later volume to get my much-loved Early Byzantine list.

Marc

Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:30 pm**

babyshark wrote:
I have to wait for a later volume to get my much-loved Early Byzantine list.

Marc

September IIRC - the book is called something like Eternal Empire ...

Posted: **Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:45 pm**

nikgaukroger wrote:
babyshark wrote:
I have to wait for a later volume to get my much-loved Early Byzantine list.

Marc
September IIRC - the book is called something like Eternal Empire ...

By the Bangles??

Dave M

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:13 am**

No, thats the Persian & greek one - Immortal Fire

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:06 am**

nikgaukroger wrote:No, thats the Persian & greek one - Immortal Fire

Pah!! You're wrong again! To my shame I know it to be "Eternal Flame"!:-)

Posted: **Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:31 am**

Cheers gents.

And thanks also for the quick trip down memory lane with 'Eternal Flame' . Ahh, a Saturday night at the Irish club in Nottingham back in the late 80's

Steve P

Posted: **Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:56 pm**

Are there suggestions for how many elements there should be in a late Legio, or Auxilium? Would they include some archers in a third rank?

Simon

Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:59 am**

bigredbat wrote:Are there suggestions for how many elements there should be in a late Legio, or Auxilium? Would they include some archers in a third rank?

Simon

At the standard representation of about 250 men per base, BGs in FOG represent more than 1 Auxilia, and can represent up to 2 (or even 3) Late Roman Legios.

Auxilia are in BGs of 4-9 bases, Legionaries in BGs of 6-12 bases. In each case, 1/3 or none can be LF archers.

Late Roman units were often brigaded in pairs e.g. the Joviani and the Herculiani (legions), the Celtae and the Petulantes (auxilia palatina), the Cornuti and the Brachiati (auxilia palatina). So it would be nice to paint each BG as such a pair of historical units.

The shield patterns are shown in the Notitia Dignitatum which can be found on the net.

Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:00 pm**

Thank you, Richard, that's just what I needed to know. For aesthetic reasons I may give all the elements in each BG a similar shield pattern, but the size of the BGs is what I was expecting.

Regards, Simon

ps Hi Stenic!

Posted: **Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:59 pm**

Hiya Simon

Think you may have found something to rival Mr Borg's system for gaming ancients...

I'm just waiting for them to release a fantasy version

Steve P

Posted: **Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:20 pm**

Hi Steve,

Yes I'm looking forward to another system so that we can ring the changes a bit from C&C. I love C&C, but if we don't try something different for a bit of variety, soon, I worry we'll go off it. I like the idea of the larger units in FoG; these days anything less than 24 men in a foot unit looks a bit small, to me.

Now a fantasy system would be nice...

; where's me Bat?

Simon