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Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:43 pm
by TimChild
Here are the FOG themes for this year's Warfare. Thanks to Robert Taylor and Graham Briggs for their help with these.
FOG:AM (Alexander to Augustus – 15mm, 800points, 6’x4’-ish tables)
Any army from the following lists, dates must be between 336BC and 14AD:
Rise of Rome: Any list
Immortal Fire: Classical Greek; Thracian; Kyrenean Greek; Early Carthaginian; Skythian or Saka; Classical Indian; Late Achaemenid Persian; Syracusan; Alexandrian Macedonian; Early Successor; Early Sarmatian; Galatian; Hellenistic Greek; Graeco-Bactrian; Indo-Greek
Legions Triumphant: Principate Roman; Kushan or Indo-Skythian; Early German; Ancient British; Early Scots-Irish; Dacian or Carpi
Lost Scrolls: Early Republican Roman; Etruscan League; Italian Hill Tribes; Latin; Samnite; Campanian; Apulian, Lucanian or Bruttian
FOG:AM (Enter the Dragon - 15mm, 800points, 6’x4’-ish tables)
Any army from the following lists:
Empires of the Dragon: Any list
Immortal Fire: Classical Indian (only Guptas)
Swords and Scimitars: Seljuk Turk (only Eastern Seljuks); Khwarazmian (only before 1231AD)
Legions Triumphant: Kushan or Indo-Skythian; Hepthalite Hunnic
Eternal Empire: Timurid
Decline and Fall: Western Turkish (not Khazars); Abbasid Arab; Ghaznavid
Lost Scrolls: Vietnamese
FOG:AM (25mm Open, any book army pre-500AD – 25mm, 650points, 6’x4’-ish tables)
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:34 pm
by petedalby
Hi Tim - thanks for posting these nice and early.
I know it is more work to set up but is there any chance you could run the 15mm early period on smaller tables - say 5' x 3'? I think it would be a be a positive change and make the HF armies more viable.
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:40 pm
by dave_r
petedalby wrote:Hi Tim - thanks for posting these nice and early.
I know it is more work to set up but is there any chance you could run the 15mm early period on smaller tables - say 5' x 3'? I think it would be a be a positive change and make the HF armies more viable.
It normally keeps the accountants happy as they can squeeze more gamers into the same amount of space!
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:35 pm
by TimChild
Thanks for raising the issue nice and early Pete, so there's time to consider it. I have no problem with taping off the tables that way - we did two years ago but not last year as v.2 was settling in.
Is there a general view than 5' x 3' is a better-balanced size for Classical? Remember that Warfare is 3h15m games, not the normal 3h30m, so HI armies may need some advantage to be able to get to grips with the shoot and scoot brigade.
Tim Child
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:41 pm
by dave_r
TimChild wrote:Thanks for raising the issue nice and early Pete, so there's time to consider it. I have no problem with taping off the tables that way - we did two years ago but not last year as v.2 was settling in.
Is there a general view than 5' x 3' is a better-balanced size for Classical? Remember that Warfare is 3h15m games, not the normal 3h30m, so HI armies may need some advantage to be able to get to grips with the shoot and scoot brigade.
Tim Child
Just my opinion - but I think 5' x 3.5' is a better size as it does at least give some room for manoever.
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:13 am
by petedalby
I think that varying the table size or AP makes any period more interesting. They did it at Britcon last year for the Medieval period and this year the smaller tables will be used for the Ancient Pool.
On checking they are using 60" x 40".
Hopefully others will give a view on this forum but next weekend should be a good opportunity to take a straw poll Tim?
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:48 pm
by dave_r
petedalby wrote:I think that varying the table size or AP makes any period more interesting.
Of course it doesn't help if your opponent sits in terrain and puts field fortifications in the gaps...
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:53 pm
by petedalby
Of course it doesn't help if your opponent sits in terrain and puts field fortifications in the gaps...
Whoever would do such a thing?
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:03 pm
by dave_r
petedalby wrote:Of course it doesn't help if your opponent sits in terrain and puts field fortifications in the gaps...
Whoever would do such a thing?
Only a cad and a bounder.
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:00 pm
by petedalby
Remind me Dave, how many points did you spend on obstacles at the Northern Doubles? And how did you do?
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:08 pm
by dave_r
petedalby wrote:Remind me Dave, how many points did you spend on obstacles at the Northern Doubles? And how did you do?
90 points, but they are very different to field fortifications. Perhaps the moral of the story is that fortifications don't work?
Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:21 pm
by titanu
dave_r wrote:90 points, but they are very different to field fortifications.
Not if the enemy are on foot

Re: Warfare 2014 FOG competitions
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:11 pm
by petedalby
Perhaps the moral of the story is that fortifications don't work?
Have to disagree with that one - best 21 points I ever spent.
