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Every friday a new section of the game's units list will be added to this thread. Please keep in mind that these lists are not necessarily final and may change during the development of the game. In addition, suggestions are always welcome

This week, we start with the Japanese Tanks class.

Japan


Tanks

Light Tanks
(High Speed, bonus VS weak targets)
Type 95 Ha-Go
Type 98 Ke-Ni
Type 3 Ke-Ri
Type 4 Ke-Nu
Type 2 Ke-To
Type 5 Ke-Ho

Medium & Heavy Tanks
(Main offensive units)
Type 97 Chi-Ha
Type 97 Shinhoto Chi-Ha
Type 1 Chi-He
Type 3 Chi-Nu
Type 4 Chi-To
Type 5 Chi-Ri
Type 100 O-I

Amphibous Tanks
(Can enter shallow water)
Type 2 Ka-Mi

Tactical Bombers

Aichi D3A "Val"
Nakajima B5N "Kate"
Yokosuka D4Y Suisei "Judy"
Nakajima B6N Tenzan "Jill"
Aichi B7A Ryusei "Grace"
Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka

Strategic Bombers

Mitsubishi G3M "Nell"
Mitsubishi G4M "Betty"
Mitsubishi Ki-67 Hiryu "Peggy"
Yokosuka P1Y Ginga "Frances"
Nakajima G8N "Rita"
Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Destroyers

Asashio-class
Kagerō-class
Akizuki-class
Shinyo Kamikaze Boat

Cruisers

Mogami-class
Tone-class
Ibuki-class

Battleships

Nagato-class
Yamato-class
Super Yamato-class



United States


Transports

M3 Halftrack
M3A1 Halftrack
Studebaker Truck
LVT-1

Recon

Willys MB M1917
Willys MB 50 Cal
Willys MB 37mm
M20
M8 Greyhound

Tanks

Light Tanks
(High Speed, bonus VS weak targets)
M3 Stuart
M3A1 Stuart
M5 Stuart
M5A1 Stuart
M24 Chaffee

Medium & Heavy Tanks
(Main offensive units)
M3 Lee
M4A1 Sherman
M4A2 Sherman
M4A3 Sherman (76)W
M4A3E8 Sherman (76)W
M4A3E2 Jumbo
M26 Pershing
T29

Amphibous Tanks
(Can enter shallow water)
LVT(A) 1
LVT(A) 4

Flamethrower Tanks
(Particularly effective against infantry, bunkers, fortified positions)
M3 Satan
M4 Zippo

Fighters

F4F Wildcat
P40 Warhawk
F6F Hellcat
F4U Corsair
P47 Thunderbolt
F8F Bearcat
P51 Mustang
P-80 Shooting Star
P38 Lightning
P-61 Black Widow

Destroyers

Gleaves class
Fletcher class
Allen M. Sumner class
PT Boat
PT Gun Boat

Cruisers

New Orleans class
Wichita Class
Baltimore class

Battleships

Colorado Class
North Carolina class
South Dakota class
Iowa class
Montana class

Carriers

Fleet Carriers
Lexington class
Yorktown class
Essex class
Midway class

Escort Carriers
Avenger class
Casablanca class
Commencement Bay class

Submarines

Tambor-class
Gato-class
Balao-class
Tench-class


Great Britain


British Pacific Fleet

Supermarine Seafire
DD Battle
BB King George V
CV Implacable

US Destroyers, Cruisers and Battleships main classes added.

Destroyers
Gleaves class
Fletcher class
Allen M. Sumner class
PT Boat
PT Gun Boat

Cruisers
New Orleans class
Wichita Class
Baltimore class

Battleships
Colorado Class
North Carolina class
South Dakota class
Iowa class
Montana clas

US Carriers and Subs added.

Carriers

Fleet Carriers
Lexington class
Yorktown class
Essex class
Midway class

Escort Carriers
Avenger class
Casablanca class
Commencement Bay class

Submarines

Tambor-class
Gato-class
Balao-class
Tench-class

Japanese Destroyers, Cruisers & Battleships added:

Destroyers

Asashio-class
Kagerō-class
Akizuki-class
Shinyo Kamikaze Boat

Cruisers

Mogami-class
Tone-class
Ibuki-class

Battleships

Nagato-class
Yamato-class
Super Yamato-class

Japanese bombers added:

Tactical Bombers

Aichi D3A "Val"
Nakajima B5N "Kate"
Yokosuka D4Y Suisei "Judy"
Nakajima B6N Tenzan "Jill"
Aichi B7A Ryusei "Grace"
Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka

Strategic Bombers

Mitsubishi G3M Nell"
Mitsubishi G4M Betty"
Mitsubishi Ki-67 Hiryu "Peggy"
Yokosuka P1Y Ginga "Frances"
Nakajima G8N "Rita"
Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

US Fighters added:

Fighters

F4F Wildcat
P40 Warhawk
F6F Hellcat
F4U Corsair
P47 Thunderbolt
F8F Bearcat
P51 Mustang
P-80 Shooting Star
P38 Lightning
P-61 Black Widow

Will there be any distinction between Heavy and Light cruisers in this game? Both had distinct characteristics and were important during the war. Same goes with light aircraft carriers and destroyer escorts. Furthermore will there be minefields that ships would have to navigate or minesweepers would have to clean up? Also is there a new list coming up as there was no update last week?

For the remaining sea units it would be nice to see for the U.S.

CVL
Independence Class

CVE
Bogue class instead of Avenger

CL
Brooklyn Class
Atlanta Class
Cleveland Class

CB:
Alaska Class

DE:
Buckley Class
Edsall Class
John C Butler Class

For Japan:

CV:
Kaga
Shokaku
Unryu
Shinano

CVL:
Zuiho
Chitose

CVE:
Taiyo
Shinyo

CA:
Takao

CL:
Nagara
Agano
Oyodo

DD:
Fubuki

We've decided to focus on heavy cruisers and place them in the "anti-destroyer" escorting role. Light Cruisers might be added later, but we have to prioritise

Minefields (both land & naval) will be present in the game. Engineers can place and clear landmines. Whether we will also have a naval minelaying & sweeping unit is not yet decided (given the short amount of time covered by naval scenarios it probably doesn't make sense to focus on this).

Currently the following japanese Carriers have been produced:

CV
Ryūjō Class
Hiryū Class
Shōkaku Class
Unryū Class
Shinano Class

CVE
Taiyo Class

BCV
Ise Class

And to make up for the lack of an update last friday, he's a shot from the Jap carrier types

Wasn't the Ryūjō Class a light aircraft carrier class? Also what is being planned for the differences for the CVE's and CV's in regards to aircraft and refueling? Will only certain planes be able to refuel and rearm from the carriers?

It is sad that you said there is a short amount of time covered by naval scenarios. The Pacific War was decided on those naval scenarios and I thought would be fully felt. Such as if you lose a naval scenario as the U.S. say Battle of Santa Cruz than it would limit the amount of ships available to support Guadalcanal or even let the Japanese have more reinforcements or ships available in Guadalcanal etc.

Thank you for your quick response in my last post and I hope to hear more. This game looks great so far.

As for the carriers, Ryūjō is a light carrier indeed. My bad You know your ships Sir.

Only naval (carrier based) aircraft will be able to draw supply from carriers, while land based types need to stay within range of airfields.

It is sad that you said there is a short amount of time covered by naval scenarios. The Pacific War was decided on those naval scenarios and I thought would be fully felt. Such as if you lose a naval scenario as the U.S. say Battle of Santa Cruz than it would limit the amount of ships available to support Guadalcanal or even let the Japanese have more reinforcements or ships available in Guadalcanal etc.

This is definitely the case in the game. Results from one scenario will affect when happens in the next.

What I was trying to say is that the naval battle scenarios focus on the battles themselves (which usually lastest a couple of days at best), not on "daily business" such as laying and clearing minefields, thus limiting the usefulness of a specialised minesweeper unit.

I have been reading about the ships of the U.S. and Japan and the naval battles for most of my life. It is a passion of mine. So when I found out about this game in production, I was very excited as you could imagine.

Thank you for clarifying my scenario questions. Looks to be a great game. Can't wait to see the other units being added and more screenshots. Maybe an I-400?

Another quick question. I know the SeaBees were a big part of the pacific theatre in WW2. Any chance they will be in the game? If so would they have a special ability to maybe create and airfield? Just a thought.

The Japanese were also great night fighters on both land and sea. Would they get a bonus for night battles?

Seabees are in the game as a cheap alternative to Engineers but without the combat capacities of the latter. They speed up entrenchment of adjacent units, and have special abilities such as laying & clearing minefields, constructing bridges etc.

There is no day/night distinction in the game, but Japs do have access to a series of twin-engine heavy fighters such as the Toryu and Gekko which excel against bombers and ground targets.

US recon and transportation units.



Transports

M3 Halftrack
M3A1 Halftrack
Studebaker Truck
LVT-1

Recon

Willys MB M1917
Willys MB 50 Cal
Willys MB 37mm
M20
M8 Greyhound

Type 100 O-I - For the Win - love that you are putting in prototypes and such. Are you open to some other suggestions for units at this point?

Definitely! Even if they don't make it in the first release, extra content will be added over the following patches/expansions/DLC. There were lots of interesting weapons that existed only in very small numbers or didn't leave prototype stage but would spice up the gameplay.

American Tank class.



Tanks

Light Tanks
(High Speed, bonus VS weak targets)
M3 Stuart
M3A1 Stuart
M5 Stuart
M5A1 Stuart
M24 Chaffee

Medium & Heavy Tanks
(Main offensive units)
M3 Lee
M4A1 Sherman
M4A2 Sherman
M4A3 Sherman (76)W
M4A3E8 Sherman (76)W
M4A3E2 Jumbo
M26 Pershing
T29

Amphibous Tanks
(Can enter shallow water)
LVT(A) 1
LVT(A) 4

Flamethrower Tanks
(Particularly effective against infantry, bunkers, fortified positions)
M3 Satan
M4 Zippo

Starting off some of the infantry units - special forces, irregular soldiers recommendations:
Giretsu Kuteitai - Airborne Special Operations Forces, hardcore infiltrators often to their own peril
Teishin Shudan - Same as above, members of the Army/Air Force Special Operations Forces
Rikusentai - Marine components and subordinate to the Special Naval Landing Forces who ran their amphibious operations, i.e., storming and assaulting the beachheads
Takasago Giyūtai - Taiwanese aborigines, think guerrilla warfare, their version of Gurkhas, they were part of the Kaoru Special Attack Corps - suicide and clandestine missions

A few of those are alraedy on the list, but we'll look into the rest as well. Thanks.

Still not certain if we'll use the Japanese names or more generic "Japanese Paratroopers/Commandos" etc. The Jap names are cool but leaningless for most people. Although I guess the same is true for PzC's "Gebirgsjäger" etc if you don't understand a bit of German.

adherbal wrote:A few of those are alraedy on the list, but we'll look into the rest as well. Thanks.

Still not certain if we'll use the Japanese names or more generic "Japanese Paratroopers/Commandos" etc. The Jap names are cool but leaningless for most people. Although I guess the same is true for PzC's "Gebirgsjäger" etc if you don't understand a bit of German.

Thought about the naming convention as we'll, probably would keep them in Japanese - it's consistent with how the ground, air and naval units are named if you think about. The only differences for bombers, we often use the NATO designator after their official title, and Japanese tanks often have "Type" in their precursor titles. Speaking of ships, what about the Fubuki Class Destroyer, it was by far one of the more popular ships in the Japanese fleet.