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It is a little strange that after Spain join in Axis , The USAF's STR still be able to land in Canarian island where is not a airport . Also they have supply 3 there . Is it a bug ? At least it is not reasonable .

You did the same Morris

This is the result of an exception of a rule where aircrafts cannot move to hexes with 0 supply. If such hex is an island then aircrafts can land there (even if it is enemy territory which is strange).

By the way, it is B24, Morris

This is the result of an exception of a rule where aircrafts cannot move to hexes with 0 supply. If such hex is an island then aircrafts can land there (even if it is enemy territory which is strange).

This sounds bad. There is no logic here. At the very least, the air units should get 0 supply on such hexes unless there is a naval unit nearby.

Cybvep wrote:

This is the result of an exception of a rule where aircrafts cannot move to hexes with 0 supply. If such hex is an island then aircrafts can land there (even if it is enemy territory which is strange).

This sounds bad. There is no logic here. At the very least, the air units should get 0 supply on such hexes unless there is a naval unit nearby.

the theoretical logic is that the planes can fly support material in

We are not talking about several planes, mind you . Same could be said about planes in other 0-supply places, anyway.

Plaid wrote:By the way, it is B24, Morris

Thanks Plaid ! Is it the one which Dolittle bombed Tokyo ?

Cybvep wrote:We are not talking about several planes, mind you . Same could be said about planes in other 0-supply places, anyway.

Yes , it means 260 STRs , Maybe B24 or B17

Morris wrote:Thanks Plaid ! Is it the one which Dolittle bombed Tokyo ?

The North American B-25 Mitchell was the bomber used in the Doolittle raids. The CEAW US strategic bomber image shown in the above screenshot looks like the Consolidated B-24 Liberator .

That is correct B-24 Liberator. The Medium bombers for the US B-25, A-26 represent the TAC aircraft for the US. The Thunderbolt was also close air support for the US forces. In the game it is used to represent FTR aircraft.

pk867 wrote:That is correct B-24 Liberator. The Medium bombers for the US B-25, A-26 represent the TAC aircraft for the US. The Thunderbolt was also close air support for the US forces. In the game it is used to represent FTR aircraft.

I saw a plane exhibit in a museum in Normandy , it is said B-26 . Is it the one which you mean A-26 ? Is the Thunderbolt P-38 or P-47 ?

P-47 is the Thunderbolt. P-38 had twin tail assemblies. That is the first FTR image for the US.

The exhibit was erroneous I hate to say. It should have read B-25. The A-26 is the last image for the TAC's for the US.

pk867 wrote:P-47 is the Thunderbolt. P-38 had twin tail assemblies. That is the first FTR image for the US.

The exhibit was erroneous I hate to say. It should have read B-25. The A-26 is the last image for the TAC's for the US.

The first US FTR image should be P-40 .

meanwhile I found another interesting thing regarding to this topic :

If Spain does not Join the Axis , this hex can't be landed by Allies aircrafts ?!

Morris wrote:

pk867 wrote:P-47 is the Thunderbolt. P-38 had twin tail assemblies. That is the first FTR image for the US.

The exhibit was erroneous I hate to say. It should have read B-25. The A-26 is the last image for the TAC's for the US.

The first US FTR image should be P-40 .

P-40 -You are right . It the changes to the P-38.

pk867 wrote:P-47 is the Thunderbolt. P-38 had twin tail assemblies. That is the first FTR image for the US.

The exhibit was erroneous I hate to say. It should have read B-25. The A-26 is the last image for the TAC's for the US.

Hi Paul , Here are the pictures I took from Normandy's museum . Is it B26 or A26 ? The Museum said it is B26. Were they wrong ? Thank you !

that looks a lot like a B26 based on the nose

Morris, did you visit Kubinka?

Morris wrote:Is it B26 or A26 ?

It could technically be called both a B26 and an A26 . From the A-26 Wiki page: "The Douglas A-26 Invader (designated B-26 between 1948–1965)".

More from Wiki: "The redesignation of the type from A-26 to B-26 has led to popular confusion with the Martin B-26 Marauder, a design that first flew in November 1940, some 16 months before the Douglas design's maiden flight. Although both types utilized the much-used Pratt & Whitney Double Wasp eighteen-cylinder, double-row engine, they are completely different designs. "

So they were "completely different designs", but they still do look quite similar. FWIW those pictures you posted are almost certainly a WWII era 'B-26 Marauder' due to the nose bubble, the upper engine air intakes, the position of the rear cupola, and the tail (much straighter than the sloping tail assembly on the 'A-26 Invader').

richardsd wrote:

Cybvep wrote:

This is the result of an exception of a rule where aircrafts cannot move to hexes with 0 supply. If such hex is an island then aircrafts can land there (even if it is enemy territory which is strange).

This sounds bad. There is no logic here. At the very least, the air units should get 0 supply on such hexes unless there is a naval unit nearby.

the theoretical logic is that the planes can fly support material in

Especially in the case of Medium and Strategic bombers, they are unlikely to land with a bomb load and although the aircraft would often take off with a heavy load of bombs and fuel, the airframe is not stressed to land in that condition. There is a limited amount of supply and armament that aircraft could fly in to support their own operations and the logistics required for strategic bombing is huge.

Areas were designated in the English Channel were returning bombers could jettison bomb loads that could not be dropped on operations, to get rid of fused bombs and lighten the aircraft for landing (Glenn Miller's plane may have strayed into one of these areas, whilst a returning unsuccessful RAF raid was jettisoning its bomb loads into the sea).