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Columns

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:29 am
by huwpy
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A colum of Cavalry (A) is charged frontally by a block of Knights (B) - in a block as they had to squeeze through a gap previously. Impact is fought. In the movement phase the knights cannot add overlap as it is already there and the left hand side is blocked by another unit. The Cavalry however can expand without response from the knights.

Is this intentional? It strikes me as odd that if you realise you are going to be impacted at a disadvantage the best response is to column up to reduce impact in the knowledge that you are going to be able to even the fight in the subsequent movement phase as being the non-phasing player you get to adjust your formation after the active one.

Re: Columns

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:10 am
by hammy
huwpy wrote:A
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A colum of Cavalry (A) is charged frontally by a block of Knights (B) - in a block as they had to squeeze through a gap previously. Impact is fought. In the movement phase the knights cannot add overlap as it is already there and the left hand side is blocked by another unit. The Cavalry however can expand without response from the knights.

Is this intentional? It strikes me as odd that if you realise you are going to be impacted at a disadvantage the best response is to column up to reduce impact in the knowledge that you are going to be able to even the fight in the subsequent movement phase as being the non-phasing player you get to adjust your formation after the active one.
The knights can expand one base as it is their turn.

You can only not expand to create a new overlap in the enemy turn.

Check "Feeding more bases into an existing melee"
Rules wrote:• The active player expands first. The non-active player can match this expansion, or expand by one file to match an existing overlap, if there is room to do so. The non-active player cannot expand unless the active player expanded on the same side or already had troops on that side in position to fight as an overlap in the next melee phase.
Hammy

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:21 am
by terrys
Is this intentional? It strikes me as odd that if you realise you are going to be impacted at a disadvantage the best response is to column up to reduce impact in the knowledge that you are going to be able to even the fight in the subsequent movement phase as being the non-phasing player you get to adjust your formation after the active one.
It is intentional. It's balanced out by the fact that, as the receiver of the charge you can't expand the create an overlap even if you have more bases available.
The chargers also have the advantage that they can choose not to expand to increase combat dice in an unfavourable situation.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:35 pm
by hammy
Rereading Huw's post I suspect this is just one of those things :(

If the knights can't expand to their left then the cavalry can indeed equal the frontage and the knights can't react.

Hmmm

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:57 pm
by huwpy
terrys wrote: The chargers also have the advantage that they can choose not to expand to increase combat dice in an unfavourable situation.
Or a favourable one for that matter :)

Such is life then, thank-you for the clarification.