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Question on deploying 75mm anti-tank gun

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:32 pm
by DotComCTO
Not sure where to post this question, but this seemed to be a sensible spot. I'm in the midst of playing a PBEM game with a friend of mine. We happen to be playing the Winter Village Remix scenario, and on one turn, I was able to see one of his German half-tracks deploy a unit into a house. Due to other pressing tactical concerns, I didn't get to attack the house with my nearby units (a Sherman and an M5). I figured that he deployed some engineer unit so I kept a little distance from the house to avoid the potential assault on my armored units. Well, it turns out he deployed a 75mm anti-tank gun INSIDE that house! Well...you can imagine the "fun" that ensued.

So my question is this: given the size and mass of that unit in real life is that even possible to do?! I get deploying the unit at the edge of a forest, but INSIDE a house?!

Any insight would be appreciated. Personally, and as you can surmise from my post, I can't understand how this is even possible, so I'm more than a little annoyed at the moment.

Thanks!

--DotComCTO

Re: Question on deploying 75mm anti-tank gun

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:10 pm
by DocMogs
there are places you can't place the 75mm tank gun, like tank traps but they go into houses.

If you assume that most of these houses are in a war zone and thus bombed out husks i would think you could put one in there

Re: Question on deploying 75mm anti-tank gun

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:11 pm
by DotComCTO
Hm. Not sure I agree with that explanation. Firstly, BA has different graphics to represent the state of a house. Again, I agree with you about placing a unit in rubble, but this was distinctly an in-tact house. Secondly, if you look at the stats for that gun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.5_cm_Pak_40), you'll see that the weight of the unit was 3,140 pounds with a length 20' 4". Somehow I can't envision that unit moving into a standing structure.

Still puzzled...and not at all happy!

:?

--DotComCTO

Re: Question on deploying 75mm anti-tank gun

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:15 pm
by pipfromslitherine
I'm not an expert, nor did I set up the data, but most mid-sized guns are deployable in buildings and bunkers. Bear in mind the level of abstraction means that we aren't really talking about an individual house really.

Cheers

Pip

Re: Question on deploying 75mm anti-tank gun

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:46 pm
by DotComCTO
pipfromslitherine wrote:I'm not an expert, nor did I set up the data, but most mid-sized guns are deployable in buildings and bunkers. Bear in mind the level of abstraction means that we aren't really talking about an individual house really.

Cheers

Pip
Thanks Pip. I always forget about the abstraction because the house looks like an individual house!

*sigh*

I'm STILL not happy. The results from my last turn were completely unexpected. Between losing those units, and then seeing my friend take out two more tanks from 8-10 squares away (facing toward his units to ensure the best part of the armor was there), I'm kind of annoyed!

Not dead yet...just...annoyed.

:P

--DotComCTO

Re: Question on deploying 75mm anti-tank gun

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:45 am
by jcb989
As some WWII general probably used to say, sh** happens, lol...
While maybe not completely realistic, I think there is nothing you can really gripe about for long with it.
certainly, a 75mm starting out inside a house is more than reasonable. But I hear you - as far as driving up,
dumping off, and squeezing in - its a bit of a realism stretch but its just a fact of life in the gameplay and now you've learned from the experience... =/