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Unexplained surredern of France
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:14 pm
by Man0lo
Hey CEAW mates! I faced a really weird issue about the game. I was playing as Allied and in July of 1940 ... France suddenly surrendered to Germany without Paris being conquered. Why did that happen? The only explanation I can give is that France had (-38) production points... Is this true?
Thanx a lot!
Re: Unexplained surredern of France
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:03 pm
by Samhain
PP has nothing to do with surrender. As far as I know an Axis unit doesn't have to be in Paris for France to surrender; it just has to not have an Allied unit there.
Re: Unexplained surredern of France
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:40 pm
by GogTheMild
Indeed. From the manual: "French government will now offer an armistice once Paris is captured or left empty after June 27th 1940."
Re: Unexplained surredern of France
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:38 pm
by Man0lo
Oh! Really weird! Why does this happen? Why should France surrender if there is no unit inside Paris? All French units were in the first line of defence to stop the advancing German Army... It doesnt make any sense ...It doesnt match with reality! Nevermind thanx a lot for the clarification!
Re: Unexplained surredern of France
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:35 am
by richardsd
Man0lo wrote:Oh! Really weird! Why does this happen? Why should France surrender if there is no unit inside Paris? All French units were in the first line of defence to stop the advancing German Army... It doesnt make any sense ...It doesnt match with reality! Nevermind thanx a lot for the clarification!
its to stop some gamey! tactics
Re: Unexplained surredern of France
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:46 am
by pk867
Also in warfare you should never leave your Capital with no troops.
Re: Unexplained surredern of France
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:20 pm
by Morris
pk867 wrote:Also in warfare you should never leave your Capital with no troops.
Yes , I do agree . At least you should put a Gar in it .
Re: Unexplained surredern of France
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:34 pm
by Peter Stauffenberg
We saw that is quite a few games the Germans didn't want to take Paris so they could hunt down all other French forces before declining the armistice. This meant that when they declined the armistice the was not French units left that could evacuate.
By leaving Paris then France actually forces the armistice offer and Germany has to accept or decline there and then what to do.
So think of leaving Paris as a French way of initiating the armistice offer situation. It means France wants to accept the armistice or at least have quite a few units they can evacuate if the offer is declined.