Slitherine

Terry and I are now confirmed to go along to the SOA games day and put on a hustorical FOG game. We are looking for a few volunteers to assist and likely would need to get some people together with additional figure as well. 3 a side would make for a really good game. 15mm.

We have decided to do the battle of Manizkert 1071 AD and need 4 volunteers to come along and play the game with us. 20 vs 21 BGs an around 1700 points a side. Should make for a great game. Played on an 8x 4ft table.

So whose free to come along? We may also need to borrow some figures although Terry and I reckon we can do a lot of them.

Si

Proposed Byzantine force for Manzikert

Generals Type bases Type
Romanus FC 1 Cv
Bryennius FC 1 Cv
Theodore Alyates FC 1 Cv
Andronikos Doukas TC 1 Cv
De Bailleul TC 1 Cv

Order of Batte Type bases Type Quality Training Armour Shooting Impact Melee
1 Frankish knights 4 Kn Sup UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
2 Varangian Guards 6 HF Elites Dr Arm Off Sp Sp
3 Varangian Guards 6 HF Elites Dr Arm Off Sp Sp
4 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
5 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
6 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
7 Skutatioi 4 HF Ave Dr Prot Def Sp Sp
Skutatoi Archers 4 MF Ave Dr Prot Bw
8 Archers 8 LF Ave Dr UnPr Bw
9 Archers 8 LF Ave Dr UnPr Bw
10 Cavalry 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw* Lnc Sw
11 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
12 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
13 Cavalry 6 Cv Ave Dr Arm Lnc Sw
14 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
15 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
16 Pecheneg 6 LF Ave UnDr UnPrt Bw Sw
17 Bulgarian Cavalry 6 Cv Ave UnDr Prot Bw Sw
18 Armenain 6 Cv Sup UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
19 Armenian Foot 8 MF Ave UnDr Prot Lt Sp
20 Armenian Archers 8 MF Ave UnDr Unprot Bw
Fortified Camp 6
20 BG Total 140

Proposed Seljuk Turks for Manzikert

Generals Type bases Type
Alp Arslan IC 1 Cv
G2 TC 1 Cv
G3 TC 1 Cv
G3 TC 1 Cv
G4 TC 1 Cv
Order of Batte Type bases Type Quality Training Armour Shooting Impact Melee
1 Nobles 6 Cv Sup Undr Arm Bw Sw
2 Nobles 6 Cv Sup Undr Arm Bw Sw
3 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
4 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
5 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
6 Ghilman 6 Cv Sup Dr Arm Bw Sw
7 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
8 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
9 Kurds 6 Cv Ave UnDr Arm Lnc Sw
10 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
11 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
12 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
13 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
14 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
15 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
16 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
17 Turcomans 6 LH Ave Dr UnProt Bw Sw
18 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
19 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
20 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
21 Archers 8 LF Ave UnDr UnPr Bw
Camp 6
21 BG Total 140

Si

We now have 4 people

Terry
Myself
Bruce Brown
Dave Madigan

Ideally 2 or 4 more for the game but we can manage it as a big doubles game if need be.

Any takers - should be fun

Si

Lynda and I are planning to come ,especially as we've rejoined the society after many,many years
David

Excellent thus far we now have

Terry
Simon

Bruce
Dave M
David F
Lynda F
Lance F

One more volunteer for a 4 side game with a general each. Any takers? Bruce any one of your local testers fancy coming with you.

Si

shall wrote:Excellent thus far we now have

Terry
Simon

Bruce
Dave M
David F
Lynda F
Lance F

One more volunteer for a 4 side game with a general each. Any takers? Bruce any one of your local testers fancy coming with you.

Si

I may be able to come too.

Superb if you can Richard.

Si

Hi,

I have mentioned it to a couple of people but no takers. I'll put out a general posting to everyone and see what the response is.

Cheers,

Bruce.

Richard has now confirmed so we have a full team of 8 .... including a full set of authors

All others welcome of course as visitors - should be fun

Simon

here are the teams drawn out of hat

Byzantine Emperor Terry
Dave Fairhurst
Lance Flint
Bruce Borwn

Seljuk Turk Shah Simon
Lynda Fairhurst
Dave Madigan
Richard Bodely-Scott

Should be good fun. We are inventorying figures this week and will post request for help up soon where needed

Si

Can all players for the SOA day aim to arrive 1 hour early and bring any troops they feel may be stuiable. We can sort out the best from all boxes when there.

Tx

Simon

If you find you are short of lead I might be able to get my Arabs and some medievals to you via Nik as a loan.

Hammy

shall wrote:Can all players for the SOA day aim to arrive 1 hour early.

Which would be what time exactly?

9am from my notes

I am in the process of finding out details for the day and will revert
soon

Si

MANIKERT a the SOA GAMES DAY - copy of mail to players for anyone else who would like to attend.

Alas due to some e-mail problem Richard of the SOA hadn't received any of my e-mails over the last few weeks. I managed to talk to him yesterday.

The event is from 10-4pm at the Farnborough club

The Address is

Elles Hall

Off Meudon Avenue

Farnborough

GU14 7LE

Locaiton map link below
Location

Drinks will be on site - tea coffee etc.
There is parking at the club but even on a Sunday it is charged for so less cars for more people a plus - although not a lot ( a few 3sfor the day I think).

They have lots of tables so and 8x 4 or larger is easy for us to put up. It will be open for 8am and we will aim to get there for 9am.

Asda is 300 yds away for sback lunch and I am sure there is a pub or two if we go for and official lunch break.

I am leaving from here at 8am. Anywone in the area is happy to join up with me and go in 1 vehicle.

Please bring any figures that fit with the attached armies and if anyone has two good matching lothes that would be great.

Should be fun

Si

Well I thought it was a lot of fun! Somehow the Turks snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, must have been all those Greek cheques in the post.....

Highlight (for me) was one unit of Ghulums that decided today was not the day to loose. They rode over and through a BG of Bulgar Cv then through one of Terry's Skutatoi units he'd brought up from reserve, killing Dukas Andronicus for good measure. I thought their number was up when Terry trapped them between a 2nd Skut BG, some LF and David F's Lh. My Ghulums simply rode over the Skut! They then turned, disrupted the LF with shooting and then rode down a BG of MF bow! (This last was after the Turk army had collapsed, but we played it out anyway to see if these guys would die )

The main problem for the Turks in this battle was too much LH. their shooting was generally ineffective and they got in the way of "proper" Cv. The Byzantine Cv was generally heavier and there was a lot of natural prey (Turk LH) for them.

Still, good fun to see so many trops on table.