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LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:31 am
by fogman
REVISED TOURNAMENT STATEMENT

A. Philosophy:

1. outcome should not be decided by troops mismatches and/or terrain and/or vast differences in numbers, therefore
a. armies must be similar in composition, and belonging to about the same period (for historical flavour). see B1, B2, B3.
b. terrain must be uniform. see B4.
(since armies are similar and terrain not advantageous to any side, victory should be decided by pure tactics, luck or no luck)

B. Rules:

1. players choose from the following list from Eternal Empire, a 500 pts cavalry army:
Timurids, Golden Horde (later) 1340-1500, Later Russians 1380-1469, Later Ottoman (early) 1362-1479, Later Lithuanians 1382-1500, Later Polish (early) 1300-1444, Mamluk Egyptian 1300-1399 (from Swords and Scimitars).
2. Players can choose the same armies.
3. shock cavalry + foot = 10 maximum. Clarification: shock cavalry are lancers and do not include light horse lancers (serbians) or light spear horsemen (lithuanians, albanians).

4. both players must choose 'very open' terrain when setting up games.

5. each player will challenge every other players.
6. a mirror game will be played, either concurrently or subsequently, in which players switch armies.
7. players are free to change the composition of any army they play before each new game.

8. since this is designed to be a learning experience and a friendly joust, scores will not be tallied. players will post results and are encouraged to discuss battles from a tactical and historical perspective.

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:11 am
by voskarp
I'm interested. Need to work some on my horse army skills though...

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:19 pm
by voskarp
Could you please elaborate on paragraph c.

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:57 pm
by fogman
voskarp wrote:Could you please elaborate on paragraph c.
you can have 5 lancers and 5 foot units, or 6 and 4 etc. lancers + infantry = 10 max. most of your units therefore will be horse archers, the way it should be.

horse archers are tricky, you need to master the evasion settings and retreat routes and how to position yourself for rear attacks.

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:28 pm
by iandavidsmith
I would be interested in this tournament.
Cheers
Ian

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:56 pm
by fogman
iandavidsmith wrote:I would be interested in this tournament.
Cheers
Ian
that makes it 3. hopefully we'll get 2 or 3 more and we can get going. voskarp has been active trying out armies...

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:05 pm
by solly
Good idea, I'm in.
Ciao!

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:41 pm
by voskarp
fogman wrote:
iandavidsmith wrote:I would be interested in this tournament.
Cheers
Ian
that makes it 3. hopefully we'll get 2 or 3 more and we can get going. voskarp has been active trying out armies...
It's more like I'm trying to learn how to not get annihilated in the first 5 rounds... I'll be last in this tournament for sure. But someone always has to be... :D

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:33 pm
by iandavidsmith
another challenge posted with me as the allies
for anyone to pick up
password= burningbridges

good luck
Ian

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:37 pm
by fogman
first post updated.

we have 5 players: fogman, voskarp, iandavidsmith, solly, lascar.
if our number doesn't change, we'll be playing 8 games each.
we'll start on sunday 23rd.
army selection is open.

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:38 pm
by fogman
fogman: later lithuanians.

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:48 pm
by iandavidsmith
i will pick Later Polish (early) 1300-1444

Thanks
Ian

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:45 am
by solly
Gday to all
Iandavidsmith choose polish before me. . .
So I play Timurids
Ciao

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:51 am
by voskarp
I'll take the Mamluks. (Remember to make challenge open to all books.)

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:24 am
by voskarp
Is light foot included in the max 10 group?

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:19 am
by iandavidsmith
solly wrote:Gday to all
Iandavidsmith choose polish before me. . .
So I play Timurids
Ciao
see 1st post....

"2. Players can choose the same armies."

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:15 pm
by fogman
voskarp wrote:Is light foot included in the max 10 group?
Yes.

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:20 pm
by fogman
Remember when setting up:

Terrain: very open
Book: any

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:23 pm
by fogman
iandavidsmith wrote:
solly wrote:Gday to all
Iandavidsmith choose polish before me. . .
So I play Timurids
Ciao
see 1st post....

"2. Players can choose the same armies."
Solly, if you don't mind, keep timurids as it makes the mirror game more interesting.

Re: LORDS OF THE STEPPE circa 1400

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:46 pm
by solly
Thanks Fogman: I see the rule. But I think that is more funny if every players use different armies. . . Or not?
Maybe in the future we can play a mirror tournament . . .