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What triggers the Russian Revolution?

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:06 pm
by majpalmer
Wanted to know so I tried an experiment.

Started the 1915 scenario, balanced, as the Entente. Disbanded ALL Russian ground units. Sortied the battlefleet seeking destruction.

It is hard to figure out exactly what costs what, but here is what appears to be the case. If it is not exact, it is close. All points listed are to national morale.

Loss of the battlefleet costs 10.
The loss of Warsaw, St. Petersburg, and Moscow costs 12 each.
All other Russian cities cost 1. It is possible fortified cities cost 2, but I am not certain.

When Russian national morale dropped below 10, Revolution began. At 5, or in any event the turn after it went below 10, Russia surrendered. In the game this occurred in December 1915, so Russia can collapse before the spring of 1917.

As I said, these numbers are not meant to be exact. If your play reveals better data, let me know.

Thanks.

Re: What triggers the Russian Revolution?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:28 am
by Zitadelle
Casualties also cause morale to drop, so if the Central Powers are inflicting heavy casualties on the Russians, this contributes to morale plummeting.

What it actually is though is shrouded in FOW, so you just have to keep battering the Russians.

EDIT: Grammar.

Re: What triggers the Russian Revolution?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:00 pm
by Samhain
Zitadelle wrote:EDIT: Grammer.
You've spelt grammar wrong. Not that I care much.

Re: What triggers the Russian Revolution?

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:57 pm
by Zitadelle
Samhain wrote:
Zitadelle wrote:EDIT: Grammer.
You've spelt grammar wrong. Not that I care much.
I do!!

Man I'm getting old. Thanks for pointing it out!!

Re: What triggers the Russian Revolution?

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:10 am
by marklv
Zitadelle wrote:Casualties also cause morale to drop, so if the Central Powers are inflicting heavy casualties on the Russians, this contributes to morale plummeting.

What it actually is though is shrouded in FOW, so you just have to keep battering the Russians.

EDIT: Grammar.
The trouble is that to 'batter' the Russians you need 75% of the German army to be in the East. That means trouble for the Western Front. And the Austrians are too weak to do anything against Russia while Serbia and Italy are in the war.