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light spear

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:20 pm
by Pikeaddict
Sorry if this topic has already been dealt with, but I couldn't find it in the thread.

Lionel and I had a problem in our last game concerning the mounted troop light spear POA.

The table phrasing is : "against any troops if no other POAs (other POAs cancel out)"

Does it means that if the mounted troop with light spear has any other POA in its favour then this specific POA does'nt count ?

or that if the net result of all POA between the mounted troop and its opponent is 0 then this POA count ?

It might look obvious but not so much for a non native english-speaking player :cry:

Thanks

Jerome

Re: light spear

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:42 pm
by rbodleyscott
Pikeaddict wrote:that if the net result of all POA between the mounted troop and its opponent is 0 then this POA count ?

This is correct.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:47 pm
by olivier
Pikeaddict wrote:
that if the net result of all POA between the mounted troop and its opponent is 0 then this POA count ?


This is correct.
If I understand, when a lancer impact against a light spear; Lancer stay at + or the light spear POA even out ?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:51 pm
by rbodleyscott
olivier wrote:
Pikeaddict wrote:
that if the net result of all POA between the mounted troop and its opponent is 0 then this POA count ?


This is correct.
If I understand, when a lancer impact against a mounted light spear; Lancer stay at + or the light spear POA even out ?
The lancers stay at +.

The net POAs (without light spear) are not 0, so mounted light spear + does not apply.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:58 pm
by olivier
OK, thanks :o
What I had understood with this wording is that if YOU are at 0 you can apply the light spear bonus not if the sum are at 0.
In fact with my reading, the light spear can't add a second plus. :? And it was a bit strong :lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:03 pm
by rbodleyscott
olivier wrote:OK, thanks :o
What I had understood with this wording is that if YOU are at 0 you can apply the light spear bonus not if the sum are at 0.
In fact with my reading, the light spear can't add a second plus.
They can't unless the enemy also has a plus.

So:

Mounted light spear cavalry vs MF bowmen have + for fighting MF, the bows have no POA, so the cavalry have a net +. They cannot have another + for light spear, so fight at +. (Lancers would fight at ++).

Mounted light spear cavalry vs MF impact foot have + for fight MF. However the impact foot also have +, so the net POA is 0. Therefore the mounted light spear + counts, and hence the cavalry fight at +. (Lancers would also fight at +, unless the impact foot charged, in which case the lancers would have ++).