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AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:43 pm
by VPaulus
Please post here your comments about this scenario.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:45 am
by Razz1
Colonel
3932 prestige
DV
lost hero on motorbike with +3 attack
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:44 pm
by monkspider
Alam Halfa
DV on turn 14/18
Losses: one of Italian fighters
A well-designed scenario, my strategy was to send my Italian troops north to clear out the British and then send my German troops east to break through the intial British lines and then capture the remaining objectives. The strategy went well, and the Italians were able to assist with the capture of the northernmost hexes.
I would recommend no significant changes. The only thing that comes to mind is to maybe add a British tank up north to put a bit more pressure on the Italians.
One other minor thing I noticed, reading the briefing for the next scenario, Suez Canal I believe, the text says something like "we will ferment an Arab revolt and then be swimming in Arab oil!" I recommend changing this to "Arabian oil", it just sounds a bit better. I haven't really commented much on it, but the scenario briefings have been really well written. I liked the bit about the Ottoman Sultan in the Malta scenario and the references to Alexander and Napoleon in the upcoming Suez scenario.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:06 pm
by produit
FM, possible DV at turn 7/18. Waited till the end for prestige and experience.
Really easy map. Especially after having played Malta before.
UK troops are not entrenched, and thus, you can really attack their positions head-on with your tank. Enemy infantry was blasted pretty fast with my 9 Panzer IV G.
I also force a loss using cheats to be able to pursue the losing side of the campaign through El Alamain.
As this map is really the only one deciding if you go on the winning or losing side of the campaign, I would really buff it up. I would especially entrenched the enemy units, making head-on attack a killing.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:46 pm
by billmv44
Beta 2, General level. Starting Prestige 5636, ending 4785.
This was fairly easy (for a change). I found the mobile radar on the first turn and destroyed it by turn 2. The biggest difficulty was the RAF. The are extremely tough. I'm really thankful for the captured spitfire. I see that minefields remain visible after they are first discovered. DV on turn 11 with no core losses (almost though). I think this scenario could be made a bit tougher. Maybe a few more minefields and/or a couple more tanks for the British.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:37 pm
by uran21
If loosing Alam Halfa campaign path continues to Tunisa. Scenarios include El Alamein, Kasserine Pass, Mareth Line and Tunisian Bridgehead.
If anyone is interested to try this campaign branch we would appreciate it much.
Thanks,
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:10 pm
by nikivdd
uran21 wrote:If loosing Alam Halfa campaign path continues to Tunisa. Scenarios include El Alamein, Kasserine Pass, Mareth Line and Tunisian Bridgehead.
If anyone is interested to try this campaign branch we would appreciate it much.
Thanks,
I'll do an endscn2 and keep you posted.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:22 pm
by nikivdd
Alam Halfa beta2
Colonel.
Upgrades: Grant to PzIVG, Pzjäger and StuGIIIF to StuGIIIF/8, 3 Bf109e to g, all PzIIIJ/1 to L, bought a Piaggio P.108 (very effective against enemy AA) and a siG33 and a Bf109g.
I would almost believe this is a blitzkrieg mission. Likely too easy on colonel, the defences are quickly breached and onwards to the east.
If this scenario is a turning point either to go further east (DV) or retreating (L), it should be made harder. A few more minefields, more british armor and where are the Churchill tanks?
The airactivity is okay, although they keep popping up between my units. I guess i finished this scenario too early for i found 4 more planes that appeared on that turn and kept "hovering" (all allied airfields were taken).
DV 12/18, 7856PP
Losses: none
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:10 am
by Kamerer
Alam el Halfa
FM level, DV at 12/18
Prestige: Start 7,400. End: 8,450. Net: +1,050
(Elite replacements to “10” during scenario for core units, unless very badly damaged – those retired and repaired w/Elite in next deployment).
a) Still can’t use paratroopers – by design or fault? Transport button says I have two air transports allocated, but can’t use them.
b) Minefields seem to spot/”see” adjacent units? Fighters come and find artillery otherwise well behind the front lines and out of enemy spotting. Only "tell" was adjacent to enemy minfield. Bizarre.
c) I agree with post above; if this is the branch, then it should be hard to get a DV. Also I used a few less than allocated units. Too generous a scenario?
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:11 am
by Kamerer
Alam el Halfa
FM level, DV at 12/18
Prestige: Start 7,400. End: 8,450. Net: +1,050
(Elite replacements to “10” during scenario for core units, unless very badly damaged – those retired and repaired w/Elite in next deployment).
a) Still can’t use paratroopers – by design or fault? Transport button says I have two air transports allocated, but can’t use them.
b) Minefields seem to spot/”see” adjacent units? Fighters come and find artillery otherwise well behind the front lines and out of enemy spotting. Only "tell" was adjacent to enemy minfield. Bizarre.
c) I agree with post above; if this is the branch, then it should be hard to get a DV. Also I used a few less than allocated units. Too generous a scenario?
If anyone is interested to try this campaign branch we would appreciate it much.
Thanks,
I will go back and do that after finished.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:48 am
by Rudankort
Kamerer wrote:
a) Still can’t use paratroopers – by design or fault? Transport button says I have two air transports allocated, but can’t use them.
Here again, a saved game illustrating the problem would be nice.
Kamerer wrote:
b) Minefields seem to spot/”see” adjacent units? Fighters come and find artillery otherwise well behind the front lines and out of enemy spotting. Only "tell" was adjacent to enemy minfield. Bizarre.
We'll check this out.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:10 am
by Kamerer
Just sent you a game with prestige/purchase issue.
Re: paras; I just opened my saved Alam el Halfa deployment and they work now. ???? I'll check a few more saved older games and see if I can find it not working.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:59 am
by Erik2
There is a Marder III unit on (11,4) that lack all specifics, name etc.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:04 pm
by Tarrak
Beta 2.0
Difficulty: General
Starting prestige: 8275.
No units upgraded. Bought a new Wurfrahmen 40. As replacements strategy during deployment phase i used following pattern: If the unit did not lose any whole star by using normal replacements i used normal, if it were the case i used elite replacements. I did over-strength all units as much as possible. Used mostly elite replacements during the battle as prestige seems quite plentiful but tbh i barely needed to do it.
Outcome: DV at turn 11/18. No losses to my core. Only a few losses to the auxiliary units ... if i remember right i only lost an Italian auxiliary fighter and two auxiliary recon units i kind of rushed early to keep view of the mobile radar.
End prestige: 9486.
Deployed all my forces in a line and pushed from there forward. Found the mobile radar already on first turn and hit it with a PzIVG reducing it strength by 6. It tried to run then in a lorry but i kept visual contact using the auxiliary recons and bombed it into oblivion with my Bf110. The radar got finally destroyed by turn 3. Sadly lost my two auxiliary recons to the British armor but at least that kept them busy so i could annihilate them in return. The initial part with the few minefields, the hunt for the mobile radar and the quite strong presence of British armor and planes is quite interesting but after breaking the initial defense line the scenario becomes quite easy. The only danger after the initial breakthrough are the waves of enemy planes spawning but as long one protect his vulnerable units with fighters and AA they are more a little annoyance then real danger.
While i generally do not mind an easy scenario in between for some relaxation this being the branch off point it seems a bit to easy. I simply cannot see how anyone can lose that one. I am by far not a tactical genius and i managed a DV after only 2/3 of the time while capturing all cities and dispatching all enemy units except a few minefields i ignored on purpose.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:29 am
by Razz1
BETA 2
Colonel
start 12644
upgrade 2 PZ3's to L
upgrade 1 to PZIVG
I don't remember this map being like this.
Lost 2 star Bergasali
Flam
Crusader
and Italian fighter with Hero
DV 14/18
end 8968 prestige
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:01 pm
by Kamerer
I played Alam el Halfa again in order to go to Tunisia. I noticed the following:
a) The airfield at 28,21 spawned a new fighter several turns after I captured it.
b) The airfield at 20,12 is labeled “airstrip.” Nothing wrong with that, but it’s the only one I’ve ever seen labeled that way and not “air field.”
c) When the aux. Fighters arrived, there was no notification, and they were not mentioned in the briefing.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:32 am
by LostAgain
Playing FM on the 3rd beta version. I had an SE Panzer IVG on space 15/16, but when I tried to move a Panzer IIF through what I perceived to be a path through the mines I was stopped by a mine on space 15/17 that was invisible until I drove into it? As I had the IVG on an adjacent space I should have been able to see the mines, shouldn't I?
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:54 am
by Kamerer
I had the same thing happen - I thought I just missed it. It was that location.
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:17 pm
by zappel
Beta3: Just a litte typing error in the starting briefing:
I remind you, Generalfeldmarschall, that the Abwher has a special additional mission for our forces.
The german military intelligence named "Abwehr" not "Abwher".
Re: AK: Alam Halfa
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:48 pm
by zappel
Kamerer wrote:The airfield at 20,12 is labeled “airstrip.” Nothing wrong with that, but it’s the only one I’ve ever seen labeled that way and not “air field.”
Good question, all the more the airfield 30,10 is labeled "RAF Base".