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Temp League - Game Three - Early Carthage vs Sparta

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:27 am
by massina_nz
This time against the classical Spartans – I expect lots of armoured hoplites and light troops and few cavalry. So I’ve learnt from my first game I need to go the other way and pick an army heavy on MF and cavalry.

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Weirdly enough the best map I get to chose by winning initiate is the same one I’m playing against the Dacians in game four, except this time I want to hold the hoplites on the rough terrain on the hill. My plan is to hold on my left and use my MF on the right to push on the flank.

Turn One

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:10 am
by massina_nz
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Spartans make a bee-line for the flat open plain, I send out my skirmishers and cavalry to slow them down (reduce the Spartan double moves)

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Whilst my MF on the right advance rapidly

Turn Two

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:50 pm
by massina_nz
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Some minor skirmishing starts, I’m wondering if the hoplites will get off the hill before my MF can interfere, if so then my hoplites can’t really afford to get engaged.

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My flanking force gains the ridge. Note how the Spartans are usign the same ploy with skirmishers to slow down my (double) movement.

Turn Three

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:26 am
by massina_nz
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I begin to circle round as the Spartan hoplites move forward tentatively, normally it’s a really bad idea to split your forces, but in this case the MF & cavalry, if they get behind the Spartans they should be able to cause significant problems.

Turn Four

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:24 am
by massina_nz
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Hmm, I split my forces again, but this time there is a good chance to turn the flank. Meanwhile my hoplites head right. There is a risk here that all the Spartans get into open terrain and my flanking force can do nothing about it.

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Speaking of which the flanking force has caught one LF out, and is beginning to look threatening. Will it arrive in time? If not, I still have a chance of a giant pincer attack on the Spartan left. One reason for moving my hoplites to the right, they may turn out to be the anvil to the MF/Cav hammer.

Turn Five

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:55 am
by massina_nz
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I manage to catch one LF, and station a cavalry on some uphill scrub – looks like I can get around this flank.

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I continue to pull to the right in the centre as all the Spartans arrive on the flat plain. In hindsight I’ve done this a couple of turns too late.

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My flanking force is almost ready to strike. But it’s too late, the Spartans are in the clear. Tactically I’ve made a real bumble of this.

Turn Six

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:51 am
by massina_nz
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I manage to get around the right flank, thankfully my cavalry survive the combined assault by enemy cavalry and hoplites.

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I think I can still extricate my spearmen, and begin to develop my pincer move. Little do I know.

Turn Seven

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:15 am
by massina_nz
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Unfortunately my C-in-C who was protecting the rear of the retreating Sacred Band, actually disrupts a hoplite unit it was fighting, so it’s won’t break away as I wanted. To protect it, I turn my Sacred band back, it will probably be the death of them, but I don’t want to lose my C-in-C so early in the game. The Spartans have gained the open plain, but my plan is to squeeze them, if any of their troops rout then it is likely to cause a domino effect within the circle of envelopment

Turn Eight

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:57 am
by massina_nz
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It was all in vain. My c-in-c routs, now the sacred band will be sacrificed, that was a poor tactical decision.

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Heartened by how a Spartan cavalry unit breaks off and disrupted three Spartan units. I decide rather than just retreating to the hills with my MF, I will instead still attempt to make a game of it (most of the time that ends in failure) and mass my flanking force to attack.

Turn Nine

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:50 pm
by massina_nz
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Next turn I flip-flop, the sacred band will be easily wiped out, I work out that I can sacrifice a few units, and still send my MF into the hills; I’m now playing for a draw.

Turn Ten

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:27 am
by massina_nz
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The sacred band are almost eliminated, but I extricate my remaining light troops and send the rest of my troops to the hills.

Turn Eleven

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:49 am
by massina_nz
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My sacred band are no more, I’m continuing to head to the hills, at first I was going to head for the upper right, but the upper left may actually be safer, it may depend on what the Spartans do next turn.

Turn Twelve

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:01 am
by massina_nz
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Looks like the best plan is to head to the left.

Turn Thirteen

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:43 am
by massina_nz
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I almost trap a couple of enemy LF. Their hoplites will be able to free them next turn.

My camp is looted at the end of the turn. Can I keep my remaining 22BPs intact for another eleven turns? I’m not used to playing this type of game and I think it will be a near run thing.

Turn Fourteen

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:43 pm
by massina_nz
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The Spartans leave the left side of the map open, I just have to be careful with my troops on the bottom right, I made a mistake with my mouse and did’nt face the Poeni foot in the right direction, so I had to cover it’s rear, I now will have to send some cavalry that way to help in the withdrawal.

Turn Fifteen

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:48 am
by massina_nz
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Bottom right looks precarious for me. I being to start writing this AAR with large dollops of hindsight. I'm struggling in this games to leave behind sacrifical untis so that others survive, by doing so condemning more units abd hastening my defeat. The two LF units and single Cavalry unit might have been saved, but the MF & HF untis were definitely expendable for the greater good.

Turn Sixteen

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:18 am
by massina_nz
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A) A foolish charge by my cavalry put s them in a predicament, they didn’t even win their combat versus the LF.
B) The Scutarii will at least sell themselves dearly
C) The Poeni foot decide that suicide is the best way out and anarchy off the hill.

Turn Seventeen

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:09 pm
by massina_nz
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Some how my rear-charged cavalry survived, but my Poeni foot didn’t and now my Scutarii will be ambushed as well.

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I spot what I think is a useful gap in the Spartan lines, but really thuis is a silly move, if I'm playing for a draw then I should stick to teh hills, not go galavanting onto theplain. My remaining commander routs some LF that contacted it ‘s rear last turn, and is bound to get surrounded as well.

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And now for my dumbest move all game, and probably the game-breaker. I have a lapse of reason and think I can rear charge a fragmented enemy cavalry unit. Completely forgettign it will easily evade away. Instead the understrength Etrusan cavalry smash into a unit of Holites and rout instead. That was just so stupid, d'oh!

Turn 18 to 24

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:36 am
by massina_nz
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The last screenshot I bothered to do.

My retreat to the hills has been a mediocre effort. Unable to resist probing attacks or committing troops to save others, I lose in the very last turn. I would have probably easily gained a draw if not for a couple of very stupid cavalry charges.

Upon reflection I still think I choose the best map that was offered, but I mistimed my withdrawal of my spearmen and was too passive with my MF and cavalry early on. I just didn't expect the Spartans to clear the hills as quick as they did, and once they did, the game was over for me.

Re: Turn 18 to 24

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:00 am
by stockwellpete
massina_nz wrote:My retreat to the hills has been a mediocre effort. Unable to resist probing attacks or committing troops to save others, I lose in the very last turn. I would have probably easily gained a draw if not for a couple of very stupid cavalry charges.
I was in a similar position to this in a game in Eric's tournament. Sharkall was absolutely trashing my army in the first phase of the game so I counted up how many units I would need to withdraw to save the game and I used the rest as a rearguard to delay him. The rearguard was eventually destroyed too but the rest of my army got away and I avoided defeat with 2 or 3 break points to spare. Very interesting AAR - I enjoy following these. :D