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Impetuous Troops

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:50 pm
by BrettPT
A couple of clarifying questions:

(A). You have two units of British cavalry. In front is a unit of KGL heavies (non-impetuous) and behind them some impetuous Light Dragoons. The KGL declare a charge on a unit of enemy horse 6 MU away. The Lt Dragoons fail their CMT so must impetuously charge as well. The only enemy within 10MU of the Lt Dragoons is the unit of enemy horse.

If the Lt Dragoons cannot contact the enemy horse, I assume they race up to the rear of the KGL and provide rear support. Is this correct?

(B). Same scenario as above, except this time the opponent is a unit of infantry who stand and shoot. The KGL stop at 2MU and get retired to 3MU by shooting.

If (A) above is correct, I assume that the Lt Dragoons make their charge move up to the rear of the KGL, who are parked at 2MU from the enemy infantry to recieve their fire. The KGL, forced to retire, do not have the move distance to pass through the Lt Dragoons so stay at 2MU from the enemy (the 1MU they must retire, to make 3MU altogether, would not allow them to get 1/2 way through the Lt Dragoons). The Lt Dragoons take a CT as if burst through.

(C). Impetuous LC (British LC in extended line or Turks) have a non-wavering, non-skirmishing enemy to their front that would normally require a CMT to charge (as skirmishers). Do they have to CMT to charge the enemy (as skirmishers), or CMT not to charge the enemy (as impetuous)?

Cheers
Brett

Re: Impetuous Troops

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:03 am
by hazelbark
BrettPT wrote:A couple of clarifying questions:

(A). You have two units of British cavalry. In front is a unit of KGL heavies (non-impetuous) and behind them some impetuous Light Dragoons. The KGL declare a charge on a unit of enemy horse 6 MU away. The Lt Dragoons fail their CMT so must impetuously charge as well. The only enemy within 10MU of the Lt Dragoons is the unit of enemy horse.

If the Lt Dragoons cannot contact the enemy horse, I assume they race up to the rear of the KGL and provide rear support. Is this correct?
Since you can choose to charge with KGL. I would say according to page 28 that they do not role to charge as they can't contact an enemy unit once the KGL declare a charge.

Re: Impetuous Troops

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:14 am
by BrettPT
Well spotted Hazelbark, 2nd bullet point page 28 neatly circumvents the issue!

I also vaguely recall Terry posting that impetuous skirmishers are not impetuous frontally except against other skirmishers, or wavering/broken troops.
Is this correct Terry?

Cheers
Brett

Re: Impetuous Troops

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:22 pm
by terrys
Since you can choose to charge with KGL. I would say according to page 28 that they do not role to charge as they can't contact an enemy unit once the KGL declare a charge.
Correct.
I also vaguely recall Terry posting that impetuous skirmishers are not impetuous frontally except against other skirmishers, or wavering/broken troops.
Is this correct Terry?
Correct again.

Basically impetuous troops only need to test if the can legally contact the enemy without taking a CMT - other than for passing through friends.