Slitherine

For your perusal,

Agnelly, Gino---------Later Ottoman Turk-1431 AD
Burgoyne, Walt-------Bosporan-284 AD
Celella, Peter---------Norse-Irish-1014 AD
Chavier II, Jorge-----Alexandrian Maced.-325 BC
Crotteau, Marc-------Alexandrian Maced.-325 BC
Edgett, Hal------------Dominate Roman 390 AD
Georgian, Paul--------Later Seleucids-160 BC
Iverson, Matt---------Ord. French-1499 AD
Johnston, Chris-------Later Seleucids - 160 BC
Kimball, Scott---------Classical Indian-Gupta-321 AD
Kovel, Jacob-----------Western Wei-629 AD
Marra, Silvo-----------Christian Nubian-1175 AD
Martin, John-----------Later Horse Nomad – Mongols - 1266
Martz, Jr., Dan--------Dominate Roman 390 AD
Martz, Sr., Dan--------Early Hungarian 1211 AD
McCampbell, Bill-------Ord. French -1485 AD
McMillen, Tom---------Mayan-1350 AD
Rioux, Bob -------------Ord. French -1485 AD
Ruddock, Dave--------Bosporan-107 BC
Spera, Philip-----------Mid. Rep. Roman-168 BC
Tebo, Justin-----------Med. German City Leagues-1451 AD
Unger, Graham--------Free Company-1420 AD
Zanich, Alan-----------Arab Conquest-636 AD
Burr, Chris -------------Western Turkish-Khazar-738-968 AD

Last minute addition to even the numbers

Have fun and good luck.

I am really looking forward to this tournament. Ordonnance French seems to be the popular choice, but there is a pretty good variety of army types. Including Mayan, which is a wonderfully bold choice. I may offer bribes to the organizers to see a Mayan v. Christian Nubian matchup. Or maybe Mayan v. Arab Conquest.

It really does seem that the meta-game has shifted away from lancer cav armies.

Marc

And you don't consider Norse-Irish a bold choice? Or at least not "wonderfully" so? Or maybe just a crazy one?

That's okay, I plan to have a screaming blast with my horde of unprotected, heavy weapon wackoes

Seriously though - I rarely have a chance of doing very well at these tournaments, regardless of what kind of army I take, so I've given up trying to play the meta-game any longer, and instead, I've decided to just bring armies that I think that I will really enjoy playing with. Maybe next time, I'll look into Galatians!

Peter C
Sword and Sandal Gaming Blog
http://swordandsandalgaming.blogspot.com/

Well Norse-Irish is certainly bold if you happen to run into the Republican Romans.

But Ricky Jones used to do quite well with them, IIRC, so it is a proven army. If you aren't careful you could end up contending with Ruddock for second place.

Marc

Ricky ran Later Anglo-Irish.

berthier wrote:Ricky ran Later Anglo-Irish.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story...

dave_r wrote:

berthier wrote:Ricky ran Later Anglo-Irish.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story...

Oh. Well they're all the same anyway.

Marc

It is interesting to see how few rough going troops are in this list.

Also I don't think this counts as a real tournament without 1 BG of Dailami even possible.

babyshark wrote:Well Norse-Irish is certainly bold if you happen to run into the Republican Romans.

Marc

It would also be pretty bold if your unprotected hordes should happen to run into an army of Prot impact foot where every single fig had a missile weapon, and most were Superior...... and the S missiles were all free. -Yuknoom The Great

Runners and Riders updated with a late addition to even numbers.

Ruddock sent me this and asked me to comment so I've grouped the armies by cheesyness

Proven Tournament Winners – Cheeseeeee!

Agnelly, Gino---------Later Ottoman Turk-1431 AD
Should do well, needs to manoeuvre well because of the lack of punch

Iverson, Matt---------Ord. French-1499 AD
McCampbell, Bill-------Ord. French -1485 AD
Rioux, Bob -------------Ord. French -1485 AD
Loads of punch, lack of manoeuvre. The French Longbow and XBow are the weak point and need to be hidden

Chavier II, Jorge-----Alexandrian Maced.-325 BC
Crotteau, Marc-------Alexandrian Maced.-325 BC
Perhaps too many toys. The pike is too slow

Edgett, Hal------------Dominate Roman 390 AD
Martz, Jr., Dan--------Dominate Roman 390 AD
In good hands a winner. If not driven well a draw meister

Marra, Silvo-----------Christian Nubian-1175 AD
Needs balls

Burgoyne, Walt-------Bosporan-284 AD
Can win in the right hands. In the wrong hands destined for second or third place. Doesn't want to waste too many points on Roman types as it will split the army.

Celella, Peter---------Norse-Irish-1014 AD
If the terrain goes well a good army. Never mind the quality feel the width

Proven Runner Up, but still cheese
Ruddock, Dave--------Bosporan-107 BC
An also ran

Inbetweeeners- nice blokes who want to be different (except the Seleucids)
Georgian, Paul--------Later Seleucids-160 BC
Johnston, Chris-------Later Seleucids - 160 BC
Again too many toys. Needs to work the mounted with the foot supports well to achieve victory otherwise too much of it can be ignored

Kovel, Jacob-----------Western Wei-629 AD
What’s in this?

Martin, John-----------Later Horse Nomad – Mongols – 1266
Not enough punch

Spera, Philip-----------Mid. Rep. Roman-168 BC
Too much punch (that is too slow)

Tebo, Justin-----------Med. German City Leagues-1451 AD
Solid but unmanoeuvrable

Unger, Graham--------Free Company-1420 AD
Should do well against the French

Zanich, Alan-----------Arab Conquest-636 AD
Lack of armour lets this down. Needs some elephants to stand behind the spear. Or at least camels with cardboard ears

Burr, Chris -------------Western Turkish-Khazar-738-968 AD
Steppes, manoeuvre, lancers, Ghilmen. What more could you want?

Loony or even nicer
Kimball, Scott---------Classical Indian-Gupta-321 AD
Could actually really hurt the French. But the elephants just tend to blow up instead

Madder than a box of frogs Or hates the Oirish (good man)
McMillen, Tom---------Mayan-1350 AD
????????

philqw78 wrote: Kovel, Jacob-----------Western Wei-629 AD
What’s in this?

IIRC
up to 4 lancers
LIke 3-5 LH
Then the MF lt sp/sw and 2nd rank bow or xbow.

With some terrain it can be dangerous to the Bosphorans, but more likley the Bosphoroi will steam in and crush one end. It is like my Xi Xia, but not enough LH and lancers which means the cool infantry need to do some serious lifting and fend off some bow fire and at least one lancer rush. They are almost capable of doing that.

Against the Ordonance armies this will struggle unless it can pull them apart and win the terrrain.

I like it in many ways, but I think it needs a lot of practice to pull off what it needs to do.

philqw78 wrote:Ruddock sent me this and asked me to comment so I've grouped the armies by cheesyness

My amendments to Phil's shockingly sober analysis.

Iverson, Matt---------Ord. French-1499 AD
McCampbell, Bill-------Ord. French -1485 AD
Rioux, Bob -------------Ord. French -1485 AD
Loads of punch, lack of manoeuvre. The French Longbow and XBow are the weak point and need to be hidden

All pretty effective players with effective armies. Rioux wins for most beautiful. Figures that is. Iverson the most cunning. If Bill plays disciplined (ie sober) he is very dangerous. For all of them the sequence of who they match up with in the first 2 rounds could impact a lot.

Crotteau, Marc-------Alexandrian Maced.-325 BC
Perhaps too many toys. The pike is too slow

Almost always an over-performer. If he has the tool kit working... If he gets a big win in round 3 he could clasp the crown.

Martz, Jr., Dan--------Dominate Roman 390 AD
In good hands a winner. If not driven well a draw meister

Perfectly capable of blowing up too.
Again if he's on his game he can use his terrain advantage well.

Marra, Silvo-----------Christian Nubian-1175 AD
Needs balls

He's got them and has the right idea. Also its been seen much less frequently in the US. I like this but if an opponent thinks throgh how to fight it, then it makes it really tough for the CN to win. If this becomes a UK special drawmeitehr tournament then he could steal a victory or two to place well.

Ruddock, Dave--------Bosporan-107 BC

He counts on his opponents being fools. He often counts right. Could matter what his position is when he meets up up with some of his thorn-ier opponents. When he starts complaining about his dice then he's failed his personal CT check.

Martin, John-----------Later Horse Nomad – Mongols – 1266
Not enough punch

Speaking of thorns and beating up on fools. John has mastered the cynical UK style. Phil you'd love him. All air and horses running around. He can deny opponents a victory given many of the armies he's facing, but will he close enough deals? Martin v Ruddock please lord someone tape that for the DVD sales. Certain to be a money maker.

Unger, Graham--------Free Company-1420 AD
Should do well against the French

Perhaps the fiendish player present. Would like to hear his plan for coping with LH and even the pike. If he gets on a roll he could be in the money.

Kimball, Scott---------Classical Indian-Gupta-321 AD
Could actually really hurt the French. But the elephants just tend to blow up instead

I ran this army and enjoyed it. Another one that people haven't thought how to cope with could be in for a rude surprise. At 800 pts its a tough trade off on many elephants to take. It also can swarm nicely against the pike outfits. But could get nibbled away if he deploys too wide or fights too often in the Steppe.

Martz, Sr., Dan--------Early Hungarian 1211 AD

Did Phil overlook his old favorite? So many configurations here. He's got some trouble with the porcupines he has to deal with. Senior is no slouch, but I don't think I would have picked this to defeat the French Ordonance. His chances of victory may be too dependent on his army design. Another one if he gets into a groove very dangerous, but once off it....

Later Horse Nomad – Mongols – 1266

phil wrote:Not enough punch

Dan wrote:Speaking of thorns and beating up on fools. John has mastered the cynical UK style. Phil you'd love him. All air and horses running around

You forget Dan, I invented the lancer army. (copyright Britcon 2000andsomething)

But I have the attention span of a republican voter. As obviously do you

philqw78 wrote:You forget Dan, I invented the lancer army. (copyright Britcon 2000andsomething)

Indeed:
Britcon 2009 - 15mm - Early Period (GBR) - 2009-08-14 Italian Ostrogoth 1st place (of course you violated copyright as an American used the army six months earlier. Don't worry not me. The cooly named Eli Kickasola.
BHGS Challenge 2009 - 15mm (GBR) - 2009-04-03 Bosphoran 12th place (20 previous users)