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Shot with melee capability - still shot?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:35 am
by Three
Armour doesn't count against shot, but do shot troops with a melee capability (Haiduks, Janissaries etc) still count as "shot" in the melee phase as far as the armour POA is concerned or do they transform into non-shot because of the melee capability?
I can see it both ways
Re: Shot with melee capability - still shot?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:04 am
by kevinj
Shot are any foot with an appropriate firearm capability (P174). Having something extra does not change this.
Re: Shot with melee capability - still shot?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:21 pm
by viperofmilan
And to add insult to injury, if you are say foot armed with HW or sword you will not get the + POA for those weapons when fighting LF with a firearm in an enclosed field - protected shot you see. Comes as quite a shock when your armored MF swordmen count no +POAs against LF arquebus in an enclosed field. You do have more dice, of course.
Kevin
Re: Shot with melee capability - still shot?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:34 pm
by stecal
Yup, LF with firearms are still shot - comes in handy when you need to reman your captured guns as only pike and/or shot can do so.
Re: Shot with melee capability - still shot?
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:02 pm
by alasdair2204
viperofmilan wrote:And to add insult to injury, if you are say foot armed with HW or sword you will not get the + POA for those weapons when fighting LF with a firearm in an enclosed field - protected shot you see. Comes as quite a shock when your armored MF swordmen count no +POAs against LF arquebus in an enclosed field. You do have more dice, of course.
Kevin
Have to check that one when I get home, I though only Foot Battle Troops got the protected status not light infantry, Dragoons getting it becasue they are medium foot, I'll check it in the rule book when I get home
cheers
Alasdair
Re: Shot with melee capability - still shot?
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:09 pm
by petedalby
Have to check that one when I get home, I though only Foot Battle Troops got the protected status not light infantry,
It appears any foot base counts as protected in enclosed fields or a village - see page 126.
Re: Shot with melee capability - still shot?
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:23 pm
by deadtorius
And to add insult to injury, if you are say foot armed with HW or sword you will not get the + POA for those weapons when fighting LF with a firearm in an enclosed field - protected shot you see. Comes as quite a shock when your armored MF swordmen count no +POAs against LF arquebus in an enclosed field. You do have more dice, of course.
Lets hope there are more of your swordsmen as well, the ++ for being an overlap counts regardless of other POA's, so if you are an overlap you still get ++ on the dirty little LF sneaks.
