Slitherine

When I attacked Yugoslavia in Aug 1940, Romania immediately joined the Axis and mobilised additional troops, while Hungary mobilised additional troops and... did not join the Axis. Is this WAD? It seems strange.

The message about the Viena conference comes another turn later I believe - then both allies activate at the same time.

Yes, but why would Romania join sooner than Hungary? Keep in mind that both Romania and Hungary mobilised additional troops, but only Romania joined. Historically Hungary was much more pro-Axis than Romania was and the cooperation between GER and HUN started sooner, so it's even stranger for me.

Romania joins immediately if Bessarabia has been annexed by USSR. Hungary and Bulgaria need the 2nd Vienna award to join immediately.

Ok, thanks for the info, but why is that the case? Hungary wanted territory which Yugoslavia controlled and it benefited from German actions in 1938. It has more to gain from Yugoslavian invasion than Romania. If Romania joins, then Hungary should, too, IMO. The sequence of events when Romania first joins the Axis and THEN Hungary gains Transylvania is odd, too.

It's very simple to move the Romanian status to be the same as for Hungary and Bulgaria (i. e. dependent on the 2nd Vienna award).

I can just change one number in game.class about the turn number the Romanians activate if Yugoslavia is DoW'ed.

I think this change can easily be done and be ready for the release version (no need for patch) because this won't affect game balance. The reason it could be changed is because it makes the rule simpler, i. e. ONE event important for early spawn and not 2 separate events.

What do you think?

I think it makes sense. I've done the same thing and DOW'd Yugoslavia only to find I can't rail my ARM to Romania. Will simplify things.

I agree, it can be confusing ATM and it doesn't really make much sense. It's not a major issue, but it still can be annoying, so if it is possible to change it easily, then this should be done IMO.

I have made the change for RC17. The above changes are so minor so we won't release RC17 to the beta testers until we have a bigger bug that must out asap. So you won't receive the update yet, but at least it's being fixed. Even Ronnie and me believed Romania would only activate when the 2nd Vienna award had happened. We were surprised to see that the code said otherwise. So now the code is updated (only changed 16 to 19 in one code line) so it's easier to remember. The rule of thumb is that you don't do anything on the Balkans until the turn after the 2nd Vienna award.

These are the fixes in RC17 that is pending release to the beta testers:
* Fixed a bug where Russian swamp, dune and mountain hexes were flagged as rail capable while USSR was neutral

* Moved the earliest activation time for Romania from after turn 16 to after turn 19 (same as Hungary and Bulgaria)

* Fixed the bug where units could not rail FROM desert hexes, but could rail to. Now units can rail in any hex with supply level 2 or better, access to a minor or major power capital and not being in dune, swamp or a mountain hex.

* Disabled the routines for adding the Konigsberg port, Plovdiv core owner and Rennes/Dijon core owner. These were routines added to fix ongoing games and I think they’re done now. So it’s time to disable the code.

Good. Any luck with finding and fixing the bug with southern convoy entering the Med via Gibraltar?

That bug about convoys entering the Med was taken care of with rc14.

Ok, thanks.

Cybvep wrote:Good. Any luck with finding and fixing the bug with southern convoy entering the Med via Gibraltar?

That bug is supposed to be fixed.