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A Small Contest

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:04 pm
by keyth
Hi there,

I was wondering if there are four or five players who are interested in a small competition, layout as follows:

Each player picks two army lists (maybe select an expansion or two to have a bit of a theme) and starts with a score of 2000
In each round, you must play each other player once using either of your lists, using a 400 point army
After each battle, your score is reduced by (break points lost x average point cost per unit) / 2 (all armies are assumed to be the full 400 for this calculation) and a further 50 if your camp is looted

Example: Player A has 25 BGs, Player B has 30. Player A has a unit average of 16, Player B has 13. Player A wins 10/25 vs. 31/30 with both camps intact. He loses 80 from his score, Player B loses 202.

Once your score drops below zero, you have been knocked out. Once no more matches are available due to knock outs (it's possible that everyone will end up sub-zero!) the player with the highest score wins.

Let me know if you're interested.

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:45 am
by batesmotel
This sounds like an interesting idea but it seems to me that the victor should get some benefit vs the loser in the calculation beyond just the raw numbers for BGs lost.

Chris

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:07 am
by keyth
That was part of my initial thinking, but I sort of like the idea that winning is its own reward - in this case, you have lost less points than the loser. Perhaps a winner's bonus of 50 if your camp was looted, guaranteeing that you don't lose more points than the loser of the battle? Key to the idea as that your score never goes up - it's a one way slide towards zero...

The idea is to promote not just winning but to win as well as possible, which is why I probably won't last long :) I've seen and done things in the last few turns of a battle that secure a win but essentially waste troops. This format is an attempt to encourage 'humane' generalship!

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:54 pm
by BurinusAgricolae
i'm interested... sign me in please

burinus agricolae...
i have ror and soa expansions only.
best

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:34 am
by Turk1964
Gday Yes i would be interested in signing up for this contest.It sounds an interesting concept.I have ROR SOA and Decline and fall.I had all the expansions but have only been able to redownload 1.Any way less of that and hopefully we can get a contest up and going.

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:26 pm
by Aristides
Sounds interesting - count me in please.

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:25 am
by keyth
OK, it looks like we have enough players to give this a go. I have a busy weekend coming up so will start on Monday. Choose one ROR and one SOA army list - please no Later Romans or Swiss! :)

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:22 am
by Turk1964
Gday Keyth
Great news and i look forward to the contest. Just a quick question ,from the army lists we choose can we also use allies?

Cheers Turk

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:42 pm
by keyth
Hi Turk,

I have no problem with allies, does anyone else?

I'm considering something Pyrrhic for RoR and Later Medieval Swedish for SOA. I'll think over the weekend and decide on Monday.

Cheers

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:29 pm
by Aristides
Hi - I don't have RoR: can I use the FoG Roman army?
(No probs with allies)

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:05 pm
by keyth
No worries with a FoG army.

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:33 pm
by Turk1964
Thanks Keyth :D I am considering for SOA Crown of Aragon or Anglo Irish For ROR Ptolemic or Carthigan

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:32 am
by Turk1964
Gday Keyth
At the momment i havent got field of glory functioning asi downloaded an expansion and then it wouldnt allow me into multiplayer. So i ended up redownloading Field of Glory and went over my internet usage and i am down to bare minimum until wednesday. The 2 armies i would like to select are,for ROR Macedonian. For SOA i will have Anglo Irish (Later) Hope to get things up and running soon.

Cheers Turk

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:23 am
by keyth
Morning all,

It's Monday so let's get things moving :) I was thinking over the weekend that each player should be permitted one army swap, just in case you find yourself playing something that you aren't enjoying. It should be fun after all.

The players are:

keyth (UK)
BurinusAgricolae (Italy?)
Aristides
Turk1964

I'll be playing:

Later Macedonian, 28 BGs, so the average per unit is 14 (400/28 = 14.3 rounds down)
Later Medieval Swedish, 26 BGs, average per unit is 15 (400/26 = 15.4 rounds down)

To recap the structure of the contest:

Each player starts with a score of 2000.
In each round, they will play each other player twice, once with a FoG/ROR army, once with SoA.
Fog of war ON, Double moves ON.
After each battle the players' scores are reduced by (Break points lost * average value per unit) / 2.
There is an additional penalty of 50 points if your camp is looted, though this is negated if you are the winner.
Once a player's score drops below zero, they have been knocked out of the contest.
When there are no more valid matches left (<= 1 player with a positive score) then the player with the highest score wins.

I have put up three challenges for the FoG/ROR stage, password 'keyth'. Please pick one up when you're ready and good luck to all!

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:14 pm
by keyth
First blood to Aristides!

Keyth (Later Macedonian) 32/28 (32 * 14/2) = 224pts lost, 1776 points remaining
Aristides (MR Roman) 24/36 (24 * 11/2) = 132 pts lost, 1868 points remaining

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:12 am
by Turk1964
Great news i have fixed my problem so i can now enter the contest. Keith since you have chosen Macedonians i will go for the Seleucids if thats ok.

Cheers Turk

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:24 am
by keyth
Play the Macs if you want, no problem at all!

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:11 am
by Turk1964
Thanks Keyth i have already answered your challange with the Seleucids so will stick with them for now for 1 round then maybe change :)

I will put up 2 challanges for SOA I will use Anglo Irish(LATER) password whiskey

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:51 am
by keyth
Latest scores:

Keyth(Later Macedonian) 32/28 (32 * 14/2) = 224pts lost, 1776 points remaining
Aristides (MR Roman) 24/36 (24 * 11/2) = 132 pts lost, 1868 points remaining

Keyth(Later Macedonian) 28/28 (28 * 14/2) = 196pts lost, 1580 remaining
Turk1964(Later Seleucid) 16/30 (16 * 13/2) = 104pts lost, 1896 remaining

Keyth(Later Med Swedish) 34/26 (34 * 15/2) = 225pts lost, 1325 remaining
Turk1964(Anglo-Irish) 34/47 (34 * 9/2) = 153pts lost, 1743 remaining

Re: A Small Contest

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:33 pm
by Turk1964
Turk1964(Anglo Irish) 47/47 (47* 8/2) = 188 pts lost

Arstides(German) 49/39 (49* 10/2) =245 pts lost

Result Draw!! Both camps were looted but i guess if its a draw then that doesnt matter?