Tercios- last question, I promise.... for a while
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:32 pm
This question concerns tercios (in this case, Late Tercios) and expansion in combat. I'll try and set the scene andd break it down so that it won't be too onerous to answer. I hope.
Our late tercio, composed of 6 arquebus and three pike is facing forward. To its side is a battle group of cavalry. For the purposes of the question, I will ask you to assume that either everyone rolls rubbish dice and misses, or that there is an inconclusive number of hits and that every CMT is passed. There are no enemy on the front or other side of the tercio within six mu.
So, the horsies charge, hitting the tercio on its side (which would be a flank except it hasnt got one). The first base of horsies hits the narrow edge of two arquebus which form the first and second rank of the file. The second base of horsies catch the third rank of arquebus. I think that the first and second rank turn to face, and two ranks of pike run from the middle of the tercio, face the horsies and the third rank of arquebus is pushed out of the way and ends up behind them. Facing the horsies, I think. Is this right?
In the melee phase, it stays the same, so you have two bases of cavalry fighting protected arquebus, and two bases of cavalry fighting two bases of pike.
The cavalry stay in the fight, not breaking off.
In the next round, can the tercio feed more bases into combat?
Can the arquebus who were in the third rank come and hang on to the flank of the two bases of pike? Could they be joined by their colleagues from the third rank on the unengaged side of the tercio?
Everything stays in the same position. And in the game, one base of arquebus joined on the side of the pike to form an overlap.
In the next manoeuvre phase, taking the above as the position, could another arquebus base expand on the other side of the arquebus that were initially engaged? This leads to their being, looking for above:
One base of arquebus in overlap.
Two bases of arquebus fighting two bases of cavalry. Behind the arqubus and at ninety degrees to them, is an elemant of pike facing to the original front
Two bases of pike fighting two bases of cavalry
one base of arquebus in overlap.
Is this right? If not , where did we go wrong and what should have happened.
I hope this is sufficiently clear. If not, I'll try to take some photos and post them so I can find out what should happen.
Thanks
Our late tercio, composed of 6 arquebus and three pike is facing forward. To its side is a battle group of cavalry. For the purposes of the question, I will ask you to assume that either everyone rolls rubbish dice and misses, or that there is an inconclusive number of hits and that every CMT is passed. There are no enemy on the front or other side of the tercio within six mu.
So, the horsies charge, hitting the tercio on its side (which would be a flank except it hasnt got one). The first base of horsies hits the narrow edge of two arquebus which form the first and second rank of the file. The second base of horsies catch the third rank of arquebus. I think that the first and second rank turn to face, and two ranks of pike run from the middle of the tercio, face the horsies and the third rank of arquebus is pushed out of the way and ends up behind them. Facing the horsies, I think. Is this right?
In the melee phase, it stays the same, so you have two bases of cavalry fighting protected arquebus, and two bases of cavalry fighting two bases of pike.
The cavalry stay in the fight, not breaking off.
In the next round, can the tercio feed more bases into combat?
Can the arquebus who were in the third rank come and hang on to the flank of the two bases of pike? Could they be joined by their colleagues from the third rank on the unengaged side of the tercio?
Everything stays in the same position. And in the game, one base of arquebus joined on the side of the pike to form an overlap.
In the next manoeuvre phase, taking the above as the position, could another arquebus base expand on the other side of the arquebus that were initially engaged? This leads to their being, looking for above:
One base of arquebus in overlap.
Two bases of arquebus fighting two bases of cavalry. Behind the arqubus and at ninety degrees to them, is an elemant of pike facing to the original front
Two bases of pike fighting two bases of cavalry
one base of arquebus in overlap.
Is this right? If not , where did we go wrong and what should have happened.
I hope this is sufficiently clear. If not, I'll try to take some photos and post them so I can find out what should happen.
Thanks