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SE unit question.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:43 pm
by stormbringer3
If you disband a SE unit when you receive it for the prestige points, will you still eventually end up with three SE units?
Thanks.
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:47 pm
by Longasc
Yes.
You can save/load before every scenario to get a new SE unit every time if you really want to do that.
It's up to you, I just consider it so borderline to exploiting that I don't do it. In the DLCs I lose my SE units often enough without disbanding them.
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:55 am
by Operation
SE unit is very cool.
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:40 am
by gokkel
Wouldn't say "eventually", in my campaign (short path) I only got 2 SE units over the whole time ^^
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 9:13 am
by Kerensky
This thread has some details on SE units.
viewtopic.php?t=26114
As a note:
DLC campaigns have a slightly different SE units system.
Instead of 3, each DLC has a different SE unit allotment.
You can only have 2 SE units in DLC 1939, 3 in DLC 1940, 4 in DLC 1941... and most likely this number will constantly increase as the DLCs move on through the years.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:28 am
by Rood
Kerensky wrote:This thread has some details on SE units.
viewtopic.php?t=26114
As a note:
DLC campaigns have a slightly different SE units system.
Instead of 3, each DLC has a different SE unit allotment.
You can only have 2 SE units in DLC 1939, 3 in DLC 1940, 4 in DLC 1941... and most likely this number will constantly increase as the DLCs move on through the years.
Thanks for this info, was looking for this, I wondered if I would get some more free units after the two I already got.
It does seem though that only infantry units will be awarded.
I replayed the first 3 scenario's quite a few times already (I underestimated a certain polish counterattack and didn't read the DV conditions too closely, keep 3 aux units alive?! to me they have always been cannon fodder
) but only ever got infantry SE units.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:53 pm
by Fimconte
Rood wrote:Kerensky wrote:This thread has some details on SE units.
viewtopic.php?t=26114
As a note:
DLC campaigns have a slightly different SE units system.
Instead of 3, each DLC has a different SE unit allotment.
You can only have 2 SE units in DLC 1939, 3 in DLC 1940, 4 in DLC 1941... and most likely this number will constantly increase as the DLCs move on through the years.
Thanks for this info, was looking for this, I wondered if I would get some more free units after the two I already got.
It does seem though that only infantry units will be awarded.
I replayed the first 3 scenario's quite a few times already (I underestimated a certain polish counterattack and didn't read the DV conditions too closely, keep 3 aux units alive?! to me they have always been cannon fodder
) but only ever got infantry SE units.
The first SE tanks you can get are Panzer IIIFs, they become available when you reach Norway I think.
So it's a good idea to disband one of the Infantry units then and hope for a PzIIIF.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:40 pm
by Rood
Thanks for the info Fimconte, I probably will not disband an infantry unit since they have so much xp now, probably will miss those tanks when I get to the 2nd DLC and invade France.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:00 pm
by Fimconte
Rood wrote:Thanks for the info Fimconte, I probably will not disband an infantry unit since they have so much xp now, probably will miss those tanks when I get to the 2nd DLC and invade France.
XP in Poland is irrelevant because the first two stars are gained so quickly.
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ExpGrowRate0 100
ExpGrowRate1 50
ExpGrowRate2 25
ExpGrowRate3 12
ExpGrowRate4 6
ExpGrowRate5 3
Also Infantry gains very little from experience (beyond the ability to overstrength, which for infantry is probably the best bonus from experience).
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# The following parameters specify experience bonus to initiative, attack and defense. There are two types of bonuses: absolute and relative (in percent of base stat). When both bonuses are non-zero, the game uses the minimum of the two.
InitiativeExpBonusAbs 1
InitiativeExpBonusRel 10
AttackExpBonusAbs 1
AttackExpBonusRel 10
DefenseExpBonusAbs 1
DefenseExpBonusRel 10
So a experienced Gerbirgsjäger would only gain +1 Soft Attack/ Ground Defence at two stars, because any gains are rounded down.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:32 pm
by soldier
XP in Poland is irrelevant because the first two stars are gained so quickly.
I highly recommend Rezaf's suggestion of playing the campaign with a slower rate of gaining exp. I restarted my campaign and adjusted the game rules file in the DLC folder (doesn't effect online games) to these settings.
ExpGrowRate0 20
ExpGrowRate1 10
ExpGrowRate2 8
ExpGrowRate3 6
ExpGrowRate4 4
ExpGrowRate5 2 (you could customise them to anything you prefer)
I've now played the first 4 battles and most units although performing very well and engaging in lots of combat have about 1/4 of their first star, or exp of 20 to 30. In my old campaign some units were already well past there first star after 5 battles. I was never that keen on the idea of an experince cap and thought it to be a bit of a quick bandaide solution, so i much prefer this more natural levelling up method. It does make it much harder to gain exp and I'm not sure how things will look past DLC 41 but the last 3 exp settings are not altered much from original. Now if only exp could actually matter more for my troops.
Thanks to Rezaf for a great idea
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:46 am
by Rood
I may tinker with the xp gain on my second go around, indeed my core units were already at 2 stars most of the time when starting the Oslo scenario.