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Allied Mulberries
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:23 am
by rkr1958
There's been a bit of discussion in Max's AAR about restricting the range of allied Mulberries. I though I'd start a thread in the beta section so we can move that discussion out of his AAR.
I guess the question is should the range of Mulberries be restricted and, if so, how much? Personally, I vote yes. Assuming the naval unit providing the supply represent the location of the Mulberry I would say 3 hexes from an English port (as my first guess).
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:22 pm
by PionUrpo
I think coasts of North Western France, Belgium, Holland should be only places for Mulberries.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:57 pm
by Peter Stauffenberg
This can easily be solved. Only surface naval ships within 10 hexes from an Allied London will provide Mulberry supply. That would be the English Channel coast almost to Brest and to Groningen. I think that's about right.
Mulberry technology will arrive in 1944 for the Allies.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:46 pm
by pk867
A mulberry was a mobile temporary port.
So it should provide 3 supply lvl instead of 2 since we are limiting the location of where the mulberry can be.
The mulberry once setup had docks, cranes and off loading of supplies quickly to get them to the troops.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:43 pm
by gerones
Mulberry technology was an English Channel specific one so IMHO a range of 8 hexes (from Cherbourg to Antwerp) would make more sense . I don´t imagine the allies transporting the mulberrys all the way through North Sea to Groningen. Furthermore the mulberry technology should be supressed if the allies capture a french or belgian sea port since mulberrys technology was a temporary artificial sea port until the port of Antwerp was seized.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:29 pm
by gerones
pk867 wrote:A mulberry was a mobile temporary port.
So it should provide 3 supply lvl instead of 2 since we are limiting the location of where the mulberry can be.
The mulberry once setup had docks, cranes and off loading of supplies quickly to get them to the troops.
I like the idea of 3 supply level for mulberries. Anyway, it might be implemented in a way that there was an allied naval unit with mulberry capacity. So you will get the mulberry capacity in a naval unit. For that you would have to pay PP´s.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:41 pm
by Peter Stauffenberg
One problem with increasing the supply level for the Allies to 3 is that then you get the same supply level as you get when you capture a port. So why would the Allies storm fortress ports if they don't gain any supply from doing so?
There is a big difference between supply level 1 and 2. With supply level 2 you have better movement than with supply level 1. That's important when you want to break out from the beaches. The difference between supply level 2 and 3 is mainly the number of steps you can repair. It makes sense you can repair more steps if you get supplies via a real port instead of a mulberry.
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:55 pm
by gerones
I meant that if you have only 1 naval unit with mulberry capacity the supply level 3 will only be provided only in a beachhead whilst the other beachheads supplied by ships wihtout mulberry capacity would have only supply level 1.