Slitherine

A declares a charge on C.
D declares an intercept charge as A will pass through D's 2 MU ZOI.
Does D charge into B and then step forward up to the 2 MU line, with A then charging into D?
Or does D stop a gnat's todger short of B (not permitted to make contact) with no step forward, resulting in A charging home into C?

Looks to me as though D cannot intercept as B is preventing D from crossing the charge path of A and D cannot contact B in an intercept. therefore, D does not move at all.

nikgaukroger wrote:Looks to me as though D cannot intercept as B is preventing D from crossing the charge path of A and D cannot contact B in an intercept. therefore, D does not move at all.

Agreed.

Surely the fact that A will move through D's ZOI gives D the option to 'declare' an intercept charge, and move as far forward as possible before being halted by B's presence?

Or is declaring an intercept charge contingent upon the declarer actually being able to reach a position that is in the path of the charger?

The latter.

I don't think the rules explicitly state this, however, IMO it is clearly implicit - if you don't actually get into the path of the charge you haven't intercepted

nikgaukroger wrote:The latter.

I don't think the rules explicitly state this, however, IMO it is clearly implicit - if you don't actually get into the path of the charge you haven't intercepted

Another way of looking at this is that you CANNOT intercept charge into someone's flank or rear, as it doesn't pass through their line of charge. So you could be 1 mm directly behind someone declaring a charge and you can't intercept them. You'd have to wait until your next bound to charge them.

Another way of looking at this is that you CANNOT intercept charge into someone's flank or rear, as it doesn't pass through their line of charge. So you could be 1 mm directly behind someone declaring a charge and you can't intercept them. You'd have to wait until your next bound to charge them.

You can intercept into someones flank or rear. There are two possible mechanisms for an intercept charge on page 63. One is them charging through your ZOI the other is if you start in a position to charge the flank or rear of a BG and it declares a charge.

Paul

elysiumsolutions@fsmail.n wrote:

Another way of looking at this is that you CANNOT intercept charge into someone's flank or rear, as it doesn't pass through their line of charge. So you could be 1 mm directly behind someone declaring a charge and you can't intercept them. You'd have to wait until your next bound to charge them.

You can intercept into someones flank or rear. There are two possible mechanisms for an intercept charge on page 63. One is them charging through your ZOI the other is if you start in a position to charge the flank or rear of a BG and it declares a charge.

Paul

Yes, I was confused. I was thinking (and have been for some time) that this is the same as the scenario where you can't intercept into a discovered flank - I.e. When your intercept would be on the chargers flank or rear when the charger had completed their charge

nikgaukroger wrote:The latter.

I don't think the rules explicitly state this, however, IMO it is clearly implicit - if you don't actually get into the path of the charge you haven't intercepted

They do state it. The two options are that an intercepiton must cross the path of the chargers or hit their flank/rear. This does neither, so can't intercept.

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It also looks like a nice flank charge if B wasn't in the way!

This is very clear in the rules. I don't understand the debate.

An intercepting battle group cannot itself be intercepted

OK, just to put this one to bed I've tweaked the picture.

A declares a charge on C.

Although A will pass through D's ZOI, D is NOT permitted to declare an interception charge because B is in the way.
- D is NOT permitted to charge into B and then step forward up to the 2MU limit of its ZOI.
- D is NOT permitted to charge forward and stop a gnat's todger short of B as that would mean D has NOT met the interception criteria of 'crossing the path' of A

zoltan wrote: D is NOT permitted to charge forward and stop a gnat's todger short of B as that would mean D has NOT met the interception criteria of 'crossing the path' of A

Without question. There is no intercept.

hazelbark wrote:This is very clear in the rules. I don't understand the debate.

It doesn't really look like anyone is debating.

Definitely no intercept opportunity.