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SE Unit Types

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:33 pm
by Dhaan
Hi,

maybe i am blind, but i didnt find these question in the forum. So i hopefully didnt ask something wich is already answered elsewhere.

Are there only SE infantery and SE panzers, or even more SE unit types? Because i got infantery or panzers all the time.

Thanks,
Dhaan

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:40 pm
by lordzimoa
Only SE Panzers, Heavy Infantry and Gebirgjager.

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:45 pm
by Iscaran
Is there a switch in pzequip (for modding) to allow other unit types as well ?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:58 pm
by Rudankort
Iscaran wrote:Is there a switch in pzequip (for modding) to allow other unit types as well ?
Yes. Essentially, any unit with "bonus" trait can be given as a bonus unit.

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:41 pm
by Vaughn
In my current game I have 2 SE units a Gebirgjager and a Grenadier. I'm having some trouble telling if these units are statistically different from their non-SE counterparts.

Are SE units special in any way other than name and they don't take up a core slot?

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:50 pm
by Horseman
My only SE unit to date (only at Norway!) has +1 hard attack and -1 ground defence (its a PzIII)

I'm sure I remember reading on here at some point that is what to expect, +1 in attack -1 to defence. I'm guessing the attack stat that gets modified is what ever one is the highest....

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:49 pm
by Kissaki
I got an SE infantry unit in Norway, and an SE PzIII in the Low Countries. So they are obviously not fixed to the scenarios. What triggers them, then?

(And for the life of me I can't remember what SE stands for - anyone? :oops: )

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:51 pm
by Horseman
Kissaki wrote:I got an SE infantry unit in Norway, and an SE PzIII in the Low Countries. So they are obviously not fixed to the scenarios. What triggers them, then?

(And for the life of me I can't remember what SE stands for - anyone? :oops: )
SE stands for special elite

I believe the trigger is winning a Decisive victory, at that point you have a chance of being awarded one upto a maximum of 3

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:27 pm
by texican
I wonder if SE Units ought to start with 1-star of experience, representing their special training.

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:32 pm
by Horseman
texican wrote:I wonder if SE Units ought to start with 1-star of experience, representing their special training.
Would kind of make sense....though I'd be just as happy to have them get +1 attack but no modifier to their defence!

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:44 pm
by Kerensky
Any campaign scenario result will award an SE unit. After all, sometimes the players who don't get the decisive victory are the ones who need help and more assets to 'catch up' as it were.

As for the stats of the SE unit... some tweaking will be required sooner or later, along with a host of other balance changes.

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:47 am
by Johninja
I still don't understand how you get them? Just a dice role at the start of every campaign?


I got one once, then i messed up and started again (I now save my game at the begining of every mission) Now i am at Sea Lion and still havn't received one.

Guess i'm just unlucky. :(

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:58 am
by VPaulus
Johninja wrote:I still don't understand how you get them? Just a dice role at the start of every campaign?


I got one once, then i messed up and started again (I now save my game at the begining of every mission) Now i am at Sea Lion and still havn't received one.

Guess i'm just unlucky. :(
Hi Johninja,
Rudankort said:
You have a 30% chance to get an elite unit at the beginning of each scenario.
There's a Portuguese saying, "Bad luck with gaming, lucky with love". :wink:

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:18 pm
by Johninja
Thanks.... :) Now I just have to find a way to reload my love.

Re:

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:37 am
by Trifler
lordzimoa wrote:Only SE Panzers, Heavy Infantry and Gebirgjager.
Sorry for the necro post, but since this thread is listed in the FAQ I decided it was needed. In Afrika Corps I got an SE Tactical Bomber. It seems reasonable that a SE Fighter could be possible as well. Allied Corp is out now and the Grand Campaign for Panzer Corps got updated. In the campaign that comes with Panzer Corps (i.e. not the Grand Campaign DLCs) though, the above quote seems to still apply.

Re: SE Unit Types

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:11 am
by Rood
NOTE: this may be a bit of a spoiler for some people!

Below are all the units in the 1.20 equipment.pzeqp file with the bonus trait.
The SE German aircraft (starting from the Bf 109F till the Ju 87G) also have the 'Theatre 0' trait so they are only available in AC.

Code: Select all

* GERMAN* 
SE Infanterie
SE Grenadier
SE Gebirgsjäger
SE Infanterie 43
SE Grenadier 43
SE Gebirgsjäger 43
SE Panzer IIIF
SE Panzer IIIG
SE Panzer IIIH
SE Panzer IIIJ
SE Panzer IIIJ/1
SE Panzer IIIL
SE Panzer IIIM
SE Panzer IIIN
SE Panzer IVD
SE Panzer IVE
SE Panzer IVF
SE Panzer IVF/2
SE Panzer IVG
SE Panzer IVH
SE Panzer IVJ
SE Panther D
SE Panther A
SE Panther G
SE Tiger I
SE Tiger II
SE Maus
SE Opel Blitz
SE SdKfz  251/1
SE SdKfz  250/1

* GERMAN Afrika Corps only *
SE Bf 109F
SE Bf 109G
SE Bf 109K
SE Fw 190A
SE Bf 110C
SE Bf 110D
SE Bf 110F
SE Bf 110G
SE Ju 87R
SE Ju 87D
SE Ju 87G

* BRITHISH *
SAS
Commando
SE Westland Lysander
SE Lorry
SE Bren Carrier
SE Spitfire Mk.I
SE Spitfire Mk.II
SE Spitfire Mk.VB
SE Spitfire Mk.IX
SE Spitfire Mk.XIV
SE Tempest Mk.V
SE Meteor Mk.III

* USA *
SE Rangers
SE Airborne
SE Willys Jeep
SE Truck
SE M3 Halftrack
SE P-51B Mustang
SE P-51D Mustang
SE P-51H Mustang
SE P-47B 
SE P-47D 
SE P-47N

Re: SE Unit Types

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:48 pm
by garrycooper101
Rood

You may have missed it. But, playing Allied Corps I have received a SE SAS infantry unit.

Re: SE Unit Types

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:45 pm
by Aloo
garrycooper101 wrote:Rood

You may have missed it. But, playing Allied Corps I have received a SE SAS infantry unit.
If you would scroll his list you would find SE SAS inf :)

Re: SE Unit Types

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:47 am
by Rood
Yes you can scroll in the code window :D

BTW technically the SAS was established mid '41 not at the start 1940 as in the equipment file, however the long range desert group which more or less is the predecessor was established mid '40.

Re: SE Unit Types

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:30 pm
by smee106
I've got 2 SE Spit's in allied corp so it is posible to get them now (at least in allied corp)