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The game of shame

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:01 pm
by dave_r
Pictures can tell more than a thousand words. Elite legionaries facing Dominate Roman

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The Elite Romans never came out from behind their Field Fortifications. This was a club game.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:06 pm
by shadowdragon
That *is* shameful indeed. Such a player should be stripped of his miniatures. :wink:

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:12 pm
by nikgaukroger
Name :!:

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 6:52 pm
by jlopez
Look on the bright side, the fort isn't on a hill.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:11 pm
by Strategos69
That looks like El Alamo! Very sad!

I wonder what kind of fun the player finds in carrying the miniatures for that. I would rather stay at home.

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:19 pm
by hazelbark
Dave is this your new plan to avoid 2nd place?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:18 pm
by Sadista
So what are the dice and tape measure for again?

Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:27 pm
by frederic
Sometimes we missed some artillery ;)

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:17 pm
by Luddite
In a competition game i'd agree a draw on turn one and head for the bar.

I a club game...this is simply astonishingly poor sportsmanship.
I'd pack up my army and go watch a more interesting game.
I doubt i'd give this absolute bad sport a second game.
Were you playing the president of FIFA?

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:32 pm
by philqw78
Luddite wrote:Were you playing the president of FIFA?
The president of FIFA does not need an opponent and plays to his own rules, always winning.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:09 pm
by dave_r
philqw78 wrote:
Luddite wrote:Were you playing the president of FIFA?
The president of FIFA does not need an opponent and plays to his own rules, always winning.
It's difficult to lsoe an election when you are the only person standing.

Although there was one case in British politics where it was a close thing and the only person standing tied.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:46 pm
by david53
Luddite wrote: I a club game...this is simply astonishingly poor sportsmanship.
Come, come he was playing against a truly morally bankrupt player using Super Dom Romans*, unprotected archers and poor city militia, so even with the FF he still had the moral high ground or camp in this case.

So, I fear I must stand up for the proper roman player who I think has'nt got that much experience in FOG. That and the fact I'm sure he had only 9 BGs or less against 15BGs and having lost the terrain the table was quite full, allowing the MF plenty of places to hide ops sorry deploy.

No it was'nt me before people think it was, had it been be I would have had 6 BGs on flank marchs :) :)

Dave

*BTW I had played that same Dom Roms army on that Sunday, twice in one day in fact and sadly won both games with only 9 BGs in my army, only just mind.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:50 pm
by philqw78
david53 wrote:Come, come he was playing against a truly morally bankrupt player using Super Dom Romans*,
The game was obviously more bankrupt than, erm, Ireland, Portugal, no Greece.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:40 pm
by madaxeman
david53 wrote:
*BTW I had played that same Dom Roms army on that Sunday, twice in one day in fact and sadly won both games with only 9 BGs in my army, only just mind.
Cause and effect maybe? :idea:

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:19 am
by atatnet
But the Elite legionaries have a threatened flank, being 6 MUs from its table edge... :?

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:31 am
by david53
atatnet wrote:But the Elite legionaries have a threatened flank, being 6 MUs from its table edge... :?
But i think he had rear support general and only being hit on 6's

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:00 am
by grahambriggs
It's a perfectly valid historical tactic - the Roman's beat Hannibal by refusing to fight in the open.

However, 6 superior shooting dice against each front corner will grind it down a bit in time

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:32 am
by philqw78
grahambriggs wrote:However, 6 superior shooting dice against each front corner will grind it down a bit in time
Hitting on sixes against elites? How long have you got. They then need to fail 2 cohesion tests in succession to frag. Being elite and behind fortifications its still not great odds to then charge them with anything as they will be on at least a single + against any foot that charge them and a double plus against any mounted but elephants. Rear support and general giving them a net evens test to take a charge, re-rolling 1's and 2's.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:28 pm
by Luddite
grahambriggs wrote:the Roman's beat Hannibal by refusing to fight in the open.
:shock: :shock: :shock: Eh?!?

I thought they beat him by scorched earth + guerilla attacks followed by a sound drubbing at Zama. :D Hehe...

Not sure even Fabius Cunctator ever deployed such an utterly defensive force at that seen above!! :D

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:29 pm
by dave_r
Luddite wrote:
grahambriggs wrote:the Roman's beat Hannibal by refusing to fight in the open.
:shock: :shock: :shock: Eh?!?

I thought they beat him by scorched earth + guerilla attacks followed by a sound drubbing at Zama. :D Hehe...
Not when Hannibal was in Italy.