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Where to from overlap?
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:05 am
by nickdives
Gents,
we did Lutzen in 28mm at Fisticuffs yesterday and the game went well with a close Swdish win, allthough the cavalry battles on either flanks were very close! We had a little discussion oner the following subject:
An Imperialist P&S unit was defending the ditch along the main road. A second Swedish P&S unit stepped forwards into overlap. Is this unit now stuck in overlap or could it wheel around to more effectively hit the enemy in the flank?
cheers Nick
Re: Where to from overlap?
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:19 am
by rbodleyscott
nickdives wrote:Gents,
we did Lutzen in 28mm at Fisticuffs yesterday and the game went well with a close Swdish win, allthough the cavalry battles on either flanks were very close! We had a little discussion oner the following subject:
An Imperialist P&S unit was defending the ditch along the main road. A second Swedish P&S unit stepped forwards into overlap. Is this unit now stuck in overlap or could it wheel around to more effectively hit the enemy in the flank?
cheers Nick
It isn't stuck in overlap, it can move away. However, that will not allow it to wheel into the flank easily because if the move starts within 1 MU of the enemy and includes a wheel, it does not count as a flank attack. This is a design decision to make flank attacks harder to achieve.
If it is in side edge to side edge contact with the enemy it can turn to face the enemy. These will not count as being charged in flank, however. They will, however, count as fighting in two directions if they choose to turn bases to face (which is optional in these circumstances).
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 4:20 pm
by nickdives
Thanks,
it seemed odd that we had a situation where whilst the corner of the unit were in overlap the other members of the unit were sat around drinking tea, reading newspapers and chatting, unable without some tricky manouvre to add anything to the combat. Their own flank and frontage were secured by friendly forces.
I would have thought that it would be rather difficult to move away from such a situation, unless by being in overlap does not imply chaps in combat. However it does seem rather odd that a juicy open flank cannot be expolited without some rather gamey manouvre or does history show that a unit would sit still and not exploit said juicy open flank?
Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 5:56 pm
by hazelbark
nickdives wrote:Thanks,
it seemed odd that we had a situation where whilst the corner of the unit were in overlap the other members of the unit were sat around drinking tea, reading newspapers and chatting, unable without some tricky manouvre to add anything to the combat. Their own flank and frontage were secured by friendly forces.
I would have thought that it would be rather difficult to move away from such a situation, unless by being in overlap does not imply chaps in combat. However it does seem rather odd that a juicy open flank cannot be expolited without some rather gamey manouvre or does history show that a unit would sit still and not exploit said juicy open flank?
You can spend one turn to wheel and then be in postion to charge NEXT impact phase. Just takes longer to get on flank.