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New Campaign Briefings in .94a

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:25 am
by Kerensky
Some of you may have noticed the majority of the scenarios in the campaign now have briefings!

These briefings represent the very first draft of the briefings we intend to include in Panzer Corps, so please read and enjoy them. Did you find them adequate? Too long? Too short? Missing key information? Let us know what you think.
If you do find any typos, wrong dates, or other errors, please don't hesitate to mention them, already three were found in Poland that needed fixing. So keep the reports coming. :)

Single play scenarios currently lack description though, and all new campaigns maps that were added in .94a also lack briefings. Namely: Sea lion 42, Italy, Gustav Line, Overlord, Ardennes, Germany, Germany West, and USA.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:30 pm
by Orchrist
I like the ones I have seen so far, great job! One further suggestion would be to also have the scripts read, by someone with the appropriate accent, as if you are receiveing the briefing in person. I realize this isn't a game breaker, but I do enjoy the voice overs especially in historical games.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:43 pm
by Razz1
Since budget is tight... perhaps use one language.. English with 3 speaker accents. German Russian British

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:32 pm
by GenWagner
My thoughts are that the briefings are good drafts, but there is need for a bit of polish in the prose and careful use of language regarding the Nazi element.

I could go through them with a fine comb but the things that stand out are:

Poland - remove "Der Fuhrer" and replace with a euphemism such as "High Command". Hitler & Nazism is understandably a sensitive subject for people and I think the original PG rightly framed the German cause in militaristic terms between states. Using terms such as "High Command" and "Germany" firmly move the game away from the political sphere.

Norway, Belgium & France. I think we can be a bit more economical with our sentence structure, use a few less words to convey the same message. I can give an example in say France if that helps.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 12:36 am
by Kerensky
GenWagner wrote:My thoughts are that the briefings are good drafts, but there is need for a bit of polish in the prose and careful use of language regarding the Nazi element.

I could go through them with a fine comb but the things that stand out are:

Poland - remove "Der Fuhrer" and replace with a euphemism such as "High Command". Hitler & Nazism is understandably a sensitive subject for people and I think the original PG rightly framed the German cause in militaristic terms between states. Using terms such as "High Command" and "Germany" firmly move the game away from the political sphere.

Norway, Belgium & France. I think we can be a bit more economical with our sentence structure, use a few less words to convey the same message. I can give an example in say France if that helps.
Hello GenWagner, and thanks for your input!

You are right that the current briefings represent drafts (the very first draft, to reiterate what the first post of this thread explained) and may need some slight tweaks and polishing. For example the first sentence of the France briefing may need to be less 'wordy' as you put it.

As for the 'Nazi element' well, this is a very tricky and delicate situation. What may be appropriate language for you may still not be appropriate enough for others. Some may have issue with 'Soviet' or even 'Bolshevism' (More people died as a result of Stalin's Purges and repression than Hitler's holocaust you know). Special care was taken to not use terminology that was too strong, for example not once does the word 'Nazi' appear in any briefings. At the same time, the Decisive Victory for France specifically names several prominent German individuals, namely Ribbentrop, Brauchitsch, Raeder, Hess, Goring, and Keitel, but not Hitler, who is still only referred to as "Der Führer" in the very same sentence. Another example is no briefing, I believe, uses the words 'kill' or 'slaughter' or 'massacre'.

At the same time, terminology such as High Command and Germany are already present within several briefings, and additional use of these terms would be overly redundant. In Poland, High Command is already referenced in the briefing, for example. Careful attention was made for ample use of synonyms to combat redundancy. We don't want every briefing to read the same:

High Command orders you to occupy X, Y, Z city. Where X,Y,Z changes from scenario to scenario.

Instead we invoke "Der Führer" or say "operation Fall Rot" to add variety and flavor to the texts.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:19 am
by adherbal
Slitherine will do final editing of the texts, and will determine whether we keep things like "der Fuhrer". Personally I don't might - I would've used the historically correct Swastika flag for the Germans - but it's a sensitive issue that is up to our publisher to decide.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:27 am
by Kerensky
adherbal wrote:Slitherine will do final editing of the texts, and will determine whether we keep things like "der Fuhrer". Personally I don't might - I would've used the historically correct Swastika flag for the Germans - but it's a sensitive issue that is up to our publisher to decide.
This will, invariably, probably be the first fan made 'user mod' to grace PzC. lol

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:44 am
by IainMcNeil
You cant have swastikas in a game or it will get banned in Germany - Same for SS symbols, Hitler, hitler salute and various other sensitive images and slogans.

On a lighter note

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:27 pm
by Easterner
Poland Campaign Briefing tells player to conquer by August....you think 11 months might promote the slows? :lol:

Re: On a lighter note

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 11:27 pm
by Kerensky
Should be fixed for the next beta.