West Australian Fog Championships results and AARs
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:48 am
The West Australian FoG Chamionships were held over the weekend of 9th & 10th April. This year the theme was aligned to the annual 'Clash of Empires' tournament - any army pre 200AD. Normally
this means a biblical/hellenistic compettiion however with the result of Empires of the Dragon we had two chinese armies.
The list of armies in ascending date order is below with the Chinese oddly forming up at the opposite extreme ends of the time range:
-700BC : Early Zhou Chinese
-326BC : Alexandrian Macedonian
-203BC : Later Carthaginian Hannibal in Italy
-180BC : Later Seleucid
-166BC : Later Seleucid
2AD : IndoSkythian
45AD : Thracian Roman Client State
45AD : Bosporan
60AD : Ancient British
168AD : Eastern Han Chinese
There were two one-day players however both were available on the same day so no byes were required.
So in summary we had:
Four heavy foot armies (pike/Spearmen)
Two Medium foot shooting armies (chinese)
Two Roman client states (Skirmish/MF armies with garrison legions)
One true barbarian army
At the end of day one the player in current last place (Bosporans) was awarded an encouragement award - a full set of new chessex dice). This apparently worked wonders as the Mike had two big wins in day two and wound up two points away from second place.The heavy foot armies tended to struggle somewhat as there looked to be a lot of terrain about. I dont know if this is because players were unlucky with placements or whether they were just not used to the terrain rules/expectations, and not doing themselves favours with terrain selection (Open spaces, roads etc...).
Despite this all tables had plenty of contact and very little benny hill malarchy. There were a couple of terrain fortress situations however these instances were not unwarranted as MF armies facing Pike/mounted combos are understandably reluctant to hand over victory by taking to open terrain in force.
There were quite a few rules clarificaitons required but generally this wasnt where it was unclear but more that it was hard to find where it is explained in the rules. In previous club games I have sworn black and blue that elephants are counted as two bases each for shooting (so that one shooting hit doesnt cauase a test). When this was challenged I had not been able to find it again so we had been taking shooting tests for elephants on only one hit. During the comp it was pointed out to me but a visiting player that this is explained in the glossary under the definition of '2HPB' entry - blatantly obvious really.
Anyway despite a fair bit of leafing through rules to locate things it was generally fairly easy to umpire. The one tricky bit was an instance where two BGs of mounted contacted, rounted then caught some LF skirmishers - causing a three BG LF log jam. I was very surpirsed to find that troops can interpenetate friends in combat (eg LF interpenetrating LF in combat. Although there was some questionable micro rules mechanics, the overall outcome was as expected. All the LF were broken within a bound or two.
Second place was taken by Geoff Tindall's Later Seleucids, with First going to Andrew Card's Thracian Roman client state. The same later seleucids also won best painted army.
The Tournament was sponsored By Dean Bedlington of Olympian Games who provided prize vouchers.
It was great to have support from one of our closest wargames vendors - only 3723Km away (much further than sydnety and melbourne).
Having Vouchers is a great way of providing prizes - particularly as Dean has a large range and a set price for postage to anywhere in the world - even though we are only two states away.
The encouragement award went to the other later Seleucid army - a sent of precision cut perspex FoG measurement markers. I wish Chris had won these earlier as he was using a borrowed army of mine and was using a heavy steel rule.
The Winning army:
4*TC
8 av LF slingers
8 av LF JLS
3 * 4 LH Bw
2 * 4 LH JLS
3 * 8 MF HW
2 * 4 HF arm dr LSSw
8 HF arm dr LSSw
4 CV arm dr LSSw
5 CV arm undr LSSw
The final placings were
83 : Andrew Card : 45AD : Thracian Roman Client State
55 : Geoff Tindall : -180BC : Later Seleucid
53 : Michael Thorne : 45AD : Bosporan
46 : Geoff Marshal : -700BC : Early Zhou Chinese
46 : Lawrence Greaves : 60AD : Ancient British
46 : Dave Barker : 168AD : Eastern Han Chinese
26 : Mark Woods : 2AD : IndoSkythian
22 : Chris Schlipalius : -166BC : Later Seleucid
19 : Andrew Reeves : -203BC : Later Carthaginian Hannibal in Italy (one day)
8 : John D : -326BC : Alexandrian Macedonian (one day)
this means a biblical/hellenistic compettiion however with the result of Empires of the Dragon we had two chinese armies.
The list of armies in ascending date order is below with the Chinese oddly forming up at the opposite extreme ends of the time range:
-700BC : Early Zhou Chinese
-326BC : Alexandrian Macedonian
-203BC : Later Carthaginian Hannibal in Italy
-180BC : Later Seleucid
-166BC : Later Seleucid
2AD : IndoSkythian
45AD : Thracian Roman Client State
45AD : Bosporan
60AD : Ancient British
168AD : Eastern Han Chinese
There were two one-day players however both were available on the same day so no byes were required.
So in summary we had:
Four heavy foot armies (pike/Spearmen)
Two Medium foot shooting armies (chinese)
Two Roman client states (Skirmish/MF armies with garrison legions)
One true barbarian army
At the end of day one the player in current last place (Bosporans) was awarded an encouragement award - a full set of new chessex dice). This apparently worked wonders as the Mike had two big wins in day two and wound up two points away from second place.The heavy foot armies tended to struggle somewhat as there looked to be a lot of terrain about. I dont know if this is because players were unlucky with placements or whether they were just not used to the terrain rules/expectations, and not doing themselves favours with terrain selection (Open spaces, roads etc...).
Despite this all tables had plenty of contact and very little benny hill malarchy. There were a couple of terrain fortress situations however these instances were not unwarranted as MF armies facing Pike/mounted combos are understandably reluctant to hand over victory by taking to open terrain in force.
There were quite a few rules clarificaitons required but generally this wasnt where it was unclear but more that it was hard to find where it is explained in the rules. In previous club games I have sworn black and blue that elephants are counted as two bases each for shooting (so that one shooting hit doesnt cauase a test). When this was challenged I had not been able to find it again so we had been taking shooting tests for elephants on only one hit. During the comp it was pointed out to me but a visiting player that this is explained in the glossary under the definition of '2HPB' entry - blatantly obvious really.
Anyway despite a fair bit of leafing through rules to locate things it was generally fairly easy to umpire. The one tricky bit was an instance where two BGs of mounted contacted, rounted then caught some LF skirmishers - causing a three BG LF log jam. I was very surpirsed to find that troops can interpenetate friends in combat (eg LF interpenetrating LF in combat. Although there was some questionable micro rules mechanics, the overall outcome was as expected. All the LF were broken within a bound or two.
Second place was taken by Geoff Tindall's Later Seleucids, with First going to Andrew Card's Thracian Roman client state. The same later seleucids also won best painted army.
The Tournament was sponsored By Dean Bedlington of Olympian Games who provided prize vouchers.
It was great to have support from one of our closest wargames vendors - only 3723Km away (much further than sydnety and melbourne).
Having Vouchers is a great way of providing prizes - particularly as Dean has a large range and a set price for postage to anywhere in the world - even though we are only two states away.
The encouragement award went to the other later Seleucid army - a sent of precision cut perspex FoG measurement markers. I wish Chris had won these earlier as he was using a borrowed army of mine and was using a heavy steel rule.
The Winning army:
4*TC
8 av LF slingers
8 av LF JLS
3 * 4 LH Bw
2 * 4 LH JLS
3 * 8 MF HW
2 * 4 HF arm dr LSSw
8 HF arm dr LSSw
4 CV arm dr LSSw
5 CV arm undr LSSw
The final placings were
83 : Andrew Card : 45AD : Thracian Roman Client State
55 : Geoff Tindall : -180BC : Later Seleucid
53 : Michael Thorne : 45AD : Bosporan
46 : Geoff Marshal : -700BC : Early Zhou Chinese
46 : Lawrence Greaves : 60AD : Ancient British
46 : Dave Barker : 168AD : Eastern Han Chinese
26 : Mark Woods : 2AD : IndoSkythian
22 : Chris Schlipalius : -166BC : Later Seleucid
19 : Andrew Reeves : -203BC : Later Carthaginian Hannibal in Italy (one day)
8 : John D : -326BC : Alexandrian Macedonian (one day)