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wokou pirates mixed battle groups

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:32 pm
by bahdahbum
Colonies&conquest : the wokou pirates have mixed battle groups, 1/2 impact, 1/2 arquebus . all are unarmoured . It is clear that they cannot claim "protected status" in their mixed BG as they are not medium foot but warriors and no pikes .

But what about melee : they have no armor .So their opponent could easely claim +PA for better armor, front rank but that POA cannot be claimed against shot . So do the second rank ( assuming the first rank still survives and is composed only of IF ) count as "shot" as it will count into the melee and so cancel better armor POA ?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:44 pm
by rbodleyscott
POA are based on the classification of the front rank bases. So it appears that they would suffer armour disadvantage unless the front rank base has been lost and replaced by a shot base.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:39 pm
by bahdahbum
In a sense it seems odd . The second ranks counts, in some cases gives POA but does not cancel ennemy's POA ...so when the front rank dies, and the second rank goes tothe front, the unit becomes more effective .... :P

Re: wokou pirates mixed battle groups

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:12 pm
by nigelemsen
I'm having a quick look at the list myself. There is a bullet point (page 90 of c&c) in the list that states to the effect the front rank base (impact foot/sw) remains and the second rank is removed. This superceeds the rule point above... So no advantage around armour if the second rank is arquebus ...

Re: wokou pirates mixed battle groups

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:02 am
by madaxeman
If your best plan involves losing the entire front rank of an average foot unit as "stage 1"....

Re: wokou pirates mixed battle groups

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:37 am
by nigelemsen
Unfortunately, with average troops that plan won't work :)