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Please vote Baltic countries

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:20 am
by Peter Stauffenberg
We also have to settle what to do with the Baltic States. Please vote on the different solutions.

1a. Add a capital to Tallinn
1b. Add a capital to Riga
1c. Add a capital to Kaunas
1d. Keep as is for all 3 cities
1e. Only make a capital of Riga and let DoW upon Riga be a DoW upon all Baltic countries: UPDATE

2a. German DoW upon either of these countries will activate USSR as an Allied country
2b. 25% accumulated chance per Baltic country DoW to activate USSR. USSR will always mobilize
2c. Keep as is (Baltic countries neutral until USSR is DoW'ed upon).
2d. If only Riga is a capital then DoW upon the Baltic countries will mobilize USSR and have a 50% for Russian activation: UPDATE

Please notice that with 2b you lose the surprise efficiency loss if Russia activates. So it's very risky
to try to lure one or more of the Baltic countries from USSR

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:38 pm
by pk867
For 'a' if we need capitals to DoW then ok.

2b

Paul

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:51 pm
by gerones
My votes are the same as Paul.

Just wondering if it will be needed a small territorial force (e.g. like danish army) in those countries previously to being invaded by USSR.



    Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:05 pm
    by schwerpunkt
    Personally I think its best to leave the option out unless someone is prepared to play test the hell out of it. The whole concept and associated penalties will be guesswork so play testing for game balance will be critical.

    Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:43 pm
    by PionUrpo
    I agree with schwerpunkt, adding this option needs lot of testing and would be better left out if 2.0 is to be released in near future.

    1d
    2c

    Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:45 pm
    by Blathergut
    i would vote leave out for now...release 2...then playtest this option over a long period of time

    Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:31 pm
    by Hammer4000
    2b. 25% accumulated chance per Baltic country DoW to activate USSR. USSR will always mobilize
    2B

    Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:43 pm
    by dagtwo
    Keep it as it is please.

    Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:54 pm
    by rkr1958
    My votes are:

    1d. Keep as is for all 3 cities

    2a. German DoW upon either of these countries will activate USSR as an Allied country

    This results in the minimum impact on what we have now. If we do anything else I do think we need to playtest the heck out of it as Neil stated. In effect even at 25% probability of enter that's a big enough chance that the axis player would have to assume if they invaded one of the Baltic States that they would have to deal with Russian activation. If they weren't then they could just simply resign and concede the game if their risky gamble didn't pay off. So from my view I think it's best as that Russia enters at 100% probability.

    Now, on the other hand if we wish to implement a non-certain (i.e., 2b) Russian entry for the invasion of a Baltic State I would vote that this would be implemented as an optional rule (i.e., defaulted off) and the default being 100% probability.

    Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:35 pm
    by BuddyGrant
    PionUrpo wrote:... needs lot of testing and would be better left out if 2.0 is to be released in near future.
    Ditto...

    1d
    2c

    Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:06 am
    by NotaPacifist
    Please, leave it as it is.

    Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:26 am
    by zechi
    1e
    2a