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Charging evaders from 2 sides

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:40 am
by kal5056
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___LH__
___LH__

YYYYYYYYY


x AND y are both facing the LH and both charge.
Can the LH (Bisect the angle) and evade out to the left or the right?

Gino
SMAC

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:11 am
by imanfasil
Several good threads on this earlier and the answer was yes they can. Apparently the better solution is to only charge from one side and then they are forced to evade away from the charger and towards the other and stop 1 MU away from the other unit. At that point is is kind of a restricted zone sandwich as niether restricted zone would allow them to turn 90 and get away from a charge on the following turn.

My game plan in the tournament next week is to just not see any LH. If I smell smoke I'll assume its my camp burning. If you don't acknowledge them they can't annoy or hurt you!

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:48 pm
by bbotus
One of the threads is entitled: Initial Rout

viewtopic.php?t=19913

Re: Charging evaders from 2 sides

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:01 pm
by zoltan
kal5056 wrote:XXXXXXXX

___LH__
___LH__

YYYYYYYYY


x AND y are both facing the LH and both charge.
Can the LH (Bisect the angle) and evade out to the left or the right?

Gino
SMAC
Yes, was the conclusion from other threads (where I previously raised exactly this example).

As long as the LH have space to fit in, they can do a 90 degree turn and "squirt out" (the official phrase) one or other side. Perversly, the LH get a more efficient move as they have had a free turn. Whereas the charging BGs must spend MUs wheeling to chase the LH.

If only one BG charges, the LH are forced to evade towards the other enemy BG and are more likely to get caught.

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:26 pm
by deadtorius
Still depends on how the target LH is facing, if they are charged in flank or rear they have no choice but to evade away from the direction of the charge, so that will determine a set direction they must evade to. So if one of your units X or Y is facing the targets flank or rear you can force them towards the other enemy, they stop short, get caught in the rear, drop cohesion turn to face and now your other unit can flank or rear charge them next turn and they are as good as dead meat.

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:42 pm
by kal5056
That was the whole point of the question.
To demonstrate that the best way to handle it was to charge the LH with the one BG to the rear.

Charging with both allows for the 90 degree escape move.

Gino
SMAC

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:32 am
by hazelbark
deadtorius wrote:Still depends on how the target LH is facing, if they are charged in flank or rear they have no choice but to evade away from the direction of the charge, so that will determine a set direction they must evade to. So if one of your units X or Y is facing the targets flank or rear you can force them towards the other enemy, they stop short, get caught in the rear, drop cohesion turn to face and now your other unit can flank or rear charge them next turn and they are as good as dead meat.
You are assuming only one charge, not both as he asked.