Hedgerow as an obstacle and hindrance to movement
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:46 pm
Here we go with another question from our first real battle and it concerns the effects of crossing and fighting across a hedgerow. I know that this has been mentioned here before but I still have a few questions.
We had the hedgerow, which is fairly substantial, classed as a linear obstacle.
On page 170 it says an obstacle is a 'linear hindrance to movement' but nowhere in the book could I find what are the actual effects on movement and how much of a hindrance it is.
At one point a player had his dragoons lining the hedgerow as did happen in the ECW. They were approached by a BG of Cavaliers. If the dragoons had been foot then they would have had a plus one in any combat for defending an obstacle, which is treated as FF, but as far as I see this does not apply to dragoons.
I know that the approaching Cavaliers would have to stop 1mu from the obstacle and would only move 1mu when charging so the dragoons would get off an extra shot at them as they approached but they would have a minus one POA for shooting at mounted, so they need a 5 or 6, and only having three bases would only get three dice so statistically they will probably only get one hit which is not enough to trigger a cohesion test so the extra shot is unlikely to be effective.
The dragoons can elect to stand but would get no benefit from the obstacle in impact and melee so will likely be beaten.
In our game the dragoon player reckoned this up and moved his dragoons back away from the hedgerow. The cavalier player then moved his BG straight over the hedgerow and as far as I read the rules he just moved full distance as he wasn't charging so that he was in charge range of the dragoons next turn. Next turn he declared his charge on the dragoons who now have to evade and were forced to evade off table and were lost.
The dragoon owning general- (the same one as in the village)- protested about this as he said - (and again I would agree)- that to force your way through a full blown English hedgerow, (which are fairly substantial obstacles not like little garden privets or jumps at a gymkhana), on a horse is not only difficult but near enough impossible.
Surely the hedgerow should have some reducing effect on movement especially for horse. After all it is described as a hindrance to movement.
So... To put my questions simply:
Does an obstacle actually have any effect on movement rates and should dragoons as well as foot get any combat bonus if they are defending one?
Thanks for the replies to my other queries and sorry for long windedness again!
We had the hedgerow, which is fairly substantial, classed as a linear obstacle.
On page 170 it says an obstacle is a 'linear hindrance to movement' but nowhere in the book could I find what are the actual effects on movement and how much of a hindrance it is.
At one point a player had his dragoons lining the hedgerow as did happen in the ECW. They were approached by a BG of Cavaliers. If the dragoons had been foot then they would have had a plus one in any combat for defending an obstacle, which is treated as FF, but as far as I see this does not apply to dragoons.
I know that the approaching Cavaliers would have to stop 1mu from the obstacle and would only move 1mu when charging so the dragoons would get off an extra shot at them as they approached but they would have a minus one POA for shooting at mounted, so they need a 5 or 6, and only having three bases would only get three dice so statistically they will probably only get one hit which is not enough to trigger a cohesion test so the extra shot is unlikely to be effective.
The dragoons can elect to stand but would get no benefit from the obstacle in impact and melee so will likely be beaten.
In our game the dragoon player reckoned this up and moved his dragoons back away from the hedgerow. The cavalier player then moved his BG straight over the hedgerow and as far as I read the rules he just moved full distance as he wasn't charging so that he was in charge range of the dragoons next turn. Next turn he declared his charge on the dragoons who now have to evade and were forced to evade off table and were lost.
The dragoon owning general- (the same one as in the village)- protested about this as he said - (and again I would agree)- that to force your way through a full blown English hedgerow, (which are fairly substantial obstacles not like little garden privets or jumps at a gymkhana), on a horse is not only difficult but near enough impossible.
Surely the hedgerow should have some reducing effect on movement especially for horse. After all it is described as a hindrance to movement.
So... To put my questions simply:
Does an obstacle actually have any effect on movement rates and should dragoons as well as foot get any combat bonus if they are defending one?
Thanks for the replies to my other queries and sorry for long windedness again!