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PZ IIIE / PZ IVD Armor Ratings

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:11 am
by MesaDon
This has been bugging me from the beginning. The difference in the Armor ratings of the PZ IIIE and the PZ IVD. The game has them as 40 for the IIIE and only 20 for the IVD. I checked my books and on line and can only find that type of difference when compared to the IVA, B, C but not the uparmored D. anyway I copied this with the web address from one of the sources I checked (it pretty much matchs my book by some German Officer in WWII as to the armor on the "D" While there are some differences I don't see a 2 to 1 difference between the two.

Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf D
Armour
Armour Front Side Rear Top/ Bottom
Turret 30mm/ 1.2in 20mm/ 0.8in 20mm/ 0.8in 10mm/ 0.4in
Superstructure 30mm/ 1.2in 20mm/ 0.8in 20mm/ 0.8in 12mm/ 0.5in
Hull 30mm/ 1.2in 20mm/ 0.8in 20mm/ 0.8in 10mm/ 0.4in
Gun mantle 30mm/ 1.2in

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/we ... usf_D.html

Panzerkampfwagen III Ausf E
Armour
Armour Front Side Rear Top/ Bottom
Turret 30mm/ 1.2in 30mm/ 1.2in 30mm/ 1.2in 12mm/ 0.5in
Superstructure 30mm/ 1.2in 30mm/ 1.2in 21mm/ 0.8in 17mm/ 0.66in
Hull 30mm/ 1.2in 30mm/ 1.2in 21mm/ 0.8in 16mm/ 0.62in
Gun mantlet 30mm/ 1.2in

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/we ... usf_E.html

I separated them all in columns all nice and neat but when I submitted ....

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:54 am
by IainMcNeil
I think it may be a typo - I think it is the PzIV A we have,not D. I'll need to check.

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:43 am
by Merr
Ian,

I've forgotten, but ... I think this was brought up awhile back regarding the armor values?

While you'll looking .... The Sherman Jumbo is still behaving like a non-turret vehicle. Again, I don't remember if it was suppose to be fixed after BF was launched or not.

Thanks.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:29 am
by Kissaki
It does indeed say PzIVD. Is there an easy-peasy way of editing the name, and/or the stats of these units? Though it's not like it's a game-killer or anything.

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:35 am
by IainMcNeil
Yes it all very easy but you would need to do it as a mod or break any multiplayer games. See teh mod forum for details.