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Weird Trade and Treachery Infantry BGs
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:11 pm
by LambertSimnel
Is it legal for a Huguenot Lansquenet BG to have 9 pike and 5 shot?
It looks wrong, but while a BG can't be an odd size unless specifically allowed by the army list,I can't see any restriction stopping the component types of a BG from being odd.
On a similar front, the Danish and Swedish versions of the Peasant Wars list can have BGs that are "1/2 or all" HF and "Up to 1/2" MF. Should that be "0 or 1/2" MF?
Re: Weird Trade and Treachery Infantry BGs
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:48 pm
by puster
LambertSimnel wrote:Is it legal for a Huguenot Lansquenet BG to have 9 pike and 5 shot?
It looks wrong, but while a BG can't be an odd size unless specifically allowed by the army list,I can't see any restriction stopping the component types of a BG from being odd.
I assume you found the freak occurence that was not thought of during rules creation, and that the numbers here should be odd, not just the sum. But perhaps it was by intention... (?)
We know that colunellas can have odd numbers.
LambertSimnel wrote:On a similar front, the Danish and Swedish versions of the Peasant Wars list can have BGs that are "1/2 or all" HF and "Up to 1/2" MF. Should that be "0 or 1/2" MF?
Your version makes more sense.
Once you field ALL HF, there is no place for any remnants of MF, so you can field either 0 or MF (though from a stricly propositional logic the or-version is not wrong). It should better be "to" or "or" in both, not one of each.
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:13 am
by deadtorius
On a similar front, the Danish and Swedish versions of the Peasant Wars list can have BGs that are "1/2 or all" HF and "Up to 1/2" MF. Should that be "0 or 1/2" MF?
Looks like you have the option of making up to 1/2 of your foot MF, the other half will be HF or if you want you can make them all HF.
This is for 2 different troop types or same option for a single troop type which would seem slightly odd.
The HF/MF option would affect your ability to move through terrain, and also affect your cohesion tests depending on what class of foot and if they got caught in the open or what they were fighting. MF are affected for fighting out in the open against certain troop types, negative mods to your cohesion test that HF do not get.
Ratio
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:38 am
by puster
The problem is with the formulation of the "Up to 1/2" for MF.
You can either field them 1/2 each or HF only. Any other ratio violates the "1/2 or all" for HF rule. Fielding 6 HF and 4 MF is not possible due to the HF rule. In consequence, there is no UP to anything, its either "0 or 1/2" for MF.
Re: Weird Trade and Treachery Infantry BGs
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:27 am
by nikgaukroger
LambertSimnel wrote:Is it legal for a Huguenot Lansquenet BG to have 9 pike and 5 shot?
It looks wrong, but while a BG can't be an odd size unless specifically allowed by the army list,I can't see any restriction stopping the component types of a BG from being odd.
It is legal as long as it can form up in a legal formation.
On a similar front, the Danish and Swedish versions of the Peasant Wars list can have BGs that are "1/2 or all" HF and "Up to 1/2" MF. Should that be "0 or 1/2" MF?
It should either have been "0 or 1/2" for the MF or "1/2 to all" for the HF - will check with Karsten.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:22 am
by deadtorius
Give the man a prize for spotting the first typo from the new book

Typos...
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:57 am
by puster
Not sure wether its a type. Unclear rules are far harder to find then mere typos.
BTW: Where do we list out actual typos or errors?
P. 25, Italian Wars French Allies. Line four in the Lansquenets, four entries missed a column.
Re: Typos...
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 12:13 pm
by rbodleyscott
puster wrote:Not sure wether its a type. Unclear rules are far harder to find then mere typos.
BTW: Where do we list out actual typos or errors?
You are at liberty to start a thread on the subject.