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Time for stories

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:48 pm
by kal5056
I think we have been playing long enough for a question like this to be fun.
Prompted by a recent discussion in another thread.

What is the highest number of Army attrition point that you have ever had one BG notch in a single phase.

I observed in a practice game once a BG of Knight cause a BG of Cav to break while being charged when fragged (1) the break caused a BG of Spear to go DISR then Fraged when burst through (1) then boke when hit by Knights (survivied Frag charge roll) and broke in Impact (1) then knights then pursued into the camp (2) and a friendly BG double dropped to Frag (Can't remember if when spear or Cav broke.) (1)

Total points 6. (Half the army in one charge)

Just curious what stories others may have.

I think we need an "Official Term" for the person that can break an army in one turn (IE 0 Attrition points lost at start of turn) and then total Army Rout by end of JAP.

We (In the US) are still waiting to award the "Centurion Award" to the first player to score a perfect 100 in a 4 round Tournament. Closest thus far is Joey Miller of Birmingham AL with 75 in a 3 rounder.
Gino
SMAC

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:17 pm
by hammy
The best I have managed was 5 or 6 depending on how you count it. A BG of medium foot crossbow did the damage. I flank charged a disrupted BG, it broke, the next BG went disrupted then was burst through then got hit in the flank and routed through another one. One more BG went fragmented afrom seeing the carnage.

The best I have seen is 8. A BG went from disrupted to broken in one go. Two BG behind it and side on were burst through then hit in the flank by the victors. They both broke and another BG that was just behind them was carried away as well :shock:

I think David Fairhurst has the record for points at one comp with 95 or 6

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:26 pm
by kal5056
Do you know if his 95 0r 96 was 3 x 25-0 and then a 20 0r 21 point victory?
That would be more impressive than 4 x 23 - 2's (IMHO)
Gino
SMAC

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:45 pm
by berthier
Matt Iverson 94.3 at the US Team Tournament 2010 in 4 rounds.

23.6, 22.1, 23.6, 25

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:00 pm
by hammy
kal5056 wrote:Do you know if his 95 0r 96 was 3 x 25-0 and then a 20 0r 21 point victory?
That would be more impressive than 4 x 23 - 2's (IMHO)
Gino
SMAC
Just checked, David got 94. 24, 21, 21 and 24

My best ever is 25, 24, 18 (but that was an 18-2 in a significantly shortened game time wise and I had lost nothing) and 24. If the third game had been more than 2:45 long it would have been 98 points with me only losing 1 AP until 2 hours in to the fourth game. Rather annoyingly my opponent in game 2 broke before I could have a chance bolster my one fragged BG :(

100 points in a four round FOG tournament is going to take a lot of doing.

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:44 pm
by timmy1
Not quite sure how many AP I got but the best I have inflicted was Principate Romans against Classical Indians. I was on the wrong end of a stuffing when I managed to reduce to 1 base an El BG. That caused the 2 BG behind it to disrupt - they were forwards as they were covering another El BG that had broken and being bolstered (I can't remember if this for seeing a BG break or when the El burst thru on the long VMD) and also caused the disrupted El BG next door to Frag. The Armoured Superior Impact Foot Skilled swordsmen Legion were able to pursue into the 2 supporting BG who double dropped to broken, causing the disrupted El BG in the line to FRAG and the El BG that had just been bolstered to FRAG to fail the test and break. IIRC it was a 6 AP swing.

Worst done to me was recently when a Kn BG hit a Pike phalanx in the flank at the same time as it was engaged frontally, causing it to break, the pursuit contacted another BG which went DISR, and the commander died in the route causing them to test again and drop to FRAG. When they got contacted by the Kn in the pursuit they really thought it was not their day...

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:12 pm
by kal5056
I still maintain that 3 x 25-0 is more impressive (towards a 100) than 94 with only 1 25-0 in 4 games.

Still would love to do that well myself so i am not dissing his accomplishment but we are talking about perfection here. LOL
Gino
SMAC

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:37 pm
by hammy
kal5056 wrote:I still maintain that 3 x 25-0 is more impressive (towards a 100) than 94 with only 1 25-0 in 4 games.

Still would love to do that well myself so i am not dissing his accomplishment but we are talking about perfection here. LOL
Gino
SMAC
Perhaps, but to be honest getting a 25-0 in FoG is a lot more dependent on luck than getting a 10-0 in DBM. All it takes is one fragged BG and you can't get those 25 points.

Now a 10-0 win in DBM without losing an element..... that was a rare and mighty win. I think I managed it perhaps one game in 100.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:17 am
by grahambriggs
I think I might have bagged 5 or 6 in one charge - Immortals hitting the flank of a battle line of pikes.

I've beaten one of the authors 25-0 :)

In DBM3.1 I managed a max win without losing an element an we worked out later that there were only two combats where he could have killed an element. Akkadians against one of those "unbeatable Wb(O) monsters" :lol:

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:27 am
by hammy
grahambriggs wrote:In DBM3.1 I managed a max win without losing an element an we worked out later that there were only two combats where he could have killed an element. Akkadians against one of those "unbeatable Wb(O) monsters" :lol:
I can remember one DBM game where when I was one element away from breaking my opponent I actually declined attacking a LH(O) with one of my LH where he would have been double overlapped and had no recoil because that meant he had a 1/36 chance of killing my LH. The other three combats I had: Kn(I) wedge vs overlapped Ax(O) in the open, Kn(S) general vs overlapped Ax(O) in the open and Kn(I) wedge general v overlapped Ax(O) in the open were all just a little better :D

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:24 pm
by madaxeman
hammy wrote:
grahambriggs wrote:In DBM3.1 I managed a max win without losing an element an we worked out later that there were only two combats where he could have killed an element. Akkadians against one of those "unbeatable Wb(O) monsters" :lol:
I can remember one DBM game where when I was one element away from breaking my opponent I actually declined attacking a LH(O) with one of my LH where he would have been double overlapped and had no recoil because that meant he had a 1/36 chance of killing my LH. The other three combats I had: Kn(I) wedge vs overlapped Ax(O) in the open, Kn(S) general vs overlapped Ax(O) in the open and Kn(I) wedge general v overlapped Ax(O) in the open were all just a little better :D
And can you remind us what dice you and your opponent rolled in each of those combats Hammy ?

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:wink:

tim

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:06 pm
by hammy
madaxeman wrote:
hammy wrote:I can remember one DBM game where when I was one element away from breaking my opponent I actually declined attacking a LH(O) with one of my LH where he would have been double overlapped and had no recoil because that meant he had a 1/36 chance of killing my LH. The other three combats I had: Kn(I) wedge vs overlapped Ax(O) in the open, Kn(S) general vs overlapped Ax(O) in the open and Kn(I) wedge general v overlapped Ax(O) in the open were all just a little better :D
And can you remind us what dice you and your opponent rolled in each of those combats Hammy ?
No :( :oops:

I can tell you who the opponent was, where the game was played, what troops were in each army and how they deployed...... does that count :?:

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:21 pm
by philqw78
hammy wrote:No :( :oops:

I can tell you who the opponent was, where the game was played, what troops were in each army and how they deployed...... does that count :?:
Yes you'd have to look up the dice per combat but the rest you remember :shock:

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:04 pm
by hammy
philqw78 wrote:
hammy wrote:No :( :oops:

I can tell you who the opponent was, where the game was played, what troops were in each army and how they deployed...... does that count :?:
Yes you'd have to look up the dice per combat but the rest you remember :shock:
Actually that was before I recorded dice :cry:

It was the second game of the last Derby qualifier held at Nottingham (so 2002 or 3 I think). MAWS against Nottingham Vets, I was using Later Hungarian against Rees Taylor's Medieval Portugese. The bulk of the table was open with a small rough hill in the centre of Rees' baseline and two rough gentle hills either side of my half of the table away from the edge.

Rees deployed a command of mostly Bw(S) in the centre back on the baseline angled out to allow him to block off the corner. I deployed my micro command (ahh, the joys of 8 Bg) on my far right. Then he deployed a command of mostly LH(O) and Ax(O) pointing at the hill on my left. Next came my CinC with WWg, Bw, Kn and LH in my centre. Then Rees deployed his last command of lots of Kn(O) who eventually were placed dismouted at an angle between the Bw(S) command and Ax command. My last two commands were my Kn(I) on the rough hill with LH(S) extending the line against his LH(O) and my Serbian ally facing the dismounted men at arms. From that point it really didn;t last very long at all :D