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Artillery Firing

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:55 am
by GeorgeS
I had a game last night and, while we see artillery have two range bands, we couldn't see why it has the 3" one. Artillery have the same number of dice at long and short ranges and we could not see any POAs that related to range. Therefore why have this short range, or are we missing something? I assume it is equivalent to "Cannister" so would be more deadly, but can see not reason for it.

Regards

George

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:00 am
by timmy1
Arc of fire P107. Also an aid memior (sp?) for the overhead shooting rules P109. It is not canister.

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:21 pm
by deadtorius
Cannister has not been invented yet, so I would agree with the above post.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:00 am
by david53
deadtorius wrote:Cannister has not been invented yet, so I would agree with the above post.
It was coming in at the end of the period covered by the rules they just did'nt have it done correctly yet, ie in tin boxes.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:27 am
by DanielS
The Swedes had both grapeshot and cannister shot
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Both the Danish and Imperial armies had cannister shot, the Danes list it among the munitions to be made ready for their new regimental cannon in 1629 while Wallenstein's army fired 27 24-pound cannister shot, 20 12-pound cannister shot and 90 6-pound cannister shot at the Swedes at Lützen 1632

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:38 pm
by BeansNFranks
DanielS wrote:The Swedes had both grapeshot and cannister shot
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Both the Danish and Imperial armies had cannister shot, the Danes list it among the munitions to be made ready for their new regimental cannon in 1629 while Wallenstein's army fired 27 24-pound cannister shot, 20 12-pound cannister shot and 90 6-pound cannister shot at the Swedes at Lützen 1632
I love your posts. You are like a walking history book :D

I nominate this guy for designing lists in the future.

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:46 pm
by david53
Daniel were did you get the pictures from?

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:17 pm
by DanielS
The photos are from the Swedish General Staff's massive history of the wars of Gustavus Adolphus "Sveriges krig 1611-1632", Appendix volume II (The work was published in 6 volumes and two appendix volumes, a bit more than 5000 pages) The items are from the Skokloster collection http://www.skoklostersslott.se/default. ... refid=2567

The grapeshot cartridge is particularly interesting as the shape is a perfect match for the chamber of the regimental cannon used by Gustavus.
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:05 am
by deadtorius
Curses wrong again :oops:

I imagine he has those things in the pictures sitting about on his desk in his library......

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:49 am
by nickdives
Daniel,

reading your posts both here and TMP I have one thing to say:

Write a book with lots of colour pictures!!!!

I find it takes too long to trawl through the posts looking fror the answers I need!

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:29 pm
by DanielS
Thanks!
I am work on a couple of book drafts at the moment but don't expect much in the way of colour pictures. Those are expensive to get & print not to mention that you have to pay an artist for any custom artwork. So the illustrations will be mostly B&W with a focus on function as well as period b&w images.

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:51 pm
by footslogger
I'll look forward to those Daniel. I'm hoping you're planning to have English language versions of them.

Re: Artillery Firing

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:00 pm
by MatteoPasi
GeorgeS wrote:I had a game last night and, while we see artillery have two range bands, we couldn't see why it has the 3" one. Artillery have the same number of dice at long and short ranges and we could not see any POAs that related to range. Therefore why have this short range, or are we missing something? I assume it is equivalent to "Cannister" so would be more deadly, but can see not reason for it.

Regards

George
When art have enemy at short range can't choose targhet

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:16 pm
by GHGAustin
Yes, artillery are actually LESS effective at close range, since they hit the same but have a reduced fire arc!