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French Huguenot

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:05 pm
by spring
Wondering whether there will be any pure sup shot in this army.
For what it's worth, Gush list had many B shooting troops which
could be equivalent to sup troops.

I like Henry of Navarre and pluderhosen :)

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Re: French Huguenot

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:45 pm
by rbodleyscott
spring wrote:Wondering whether there will be any pure sup shot in this army.
No

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:04 pm
by spring
aaaww, well ok, thanks for the reply.

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:40 pm
by timmy1
Spring, if you are playing in book, anything without Pike is going to get rolled over by all those Gendarmes, VERY, VERY quickly.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:01 am
by BlackPrince
Which army list book will the Huguenot list appearing in?
Will the Huguenot army be competitive?
Are there any Beta lists out there at the moment?
Who makes a good range of figures for the French Wars of religion? How close are the late period figures to the Thirty Years Wars figures?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:07 am
by nikgaukroger
BlackPrince wrote:Which army list book will the Huguenot list appearing in?

The nest one out :)

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:12 am
by rbodleyscott
BlackPrince wrote:Which army list book will the Huguenot list appearing in?
Trade and treachery, coming next.
Will the Huguenot army be competitive?
Yes
Are there any Beta lists out there at the moment?
No
Who makes a good range of figures for the French Wars of religion?


Don't know
How close are the late period figures to the Thirty Years Wars figures?
Not that close, methinks.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:36 am
by kevindgaming
BlackPrince wrote:Which army list book will the Huguenot list appearing in?
Will the Huguenot army be competitive?
Are there any Beta lists out there at the moment?
Who makes a good range of figures for the French Wars of religion? How close are the late period figures to the Thirty Years Wars figures?
Old Glory Miniatures has a Wars of Religion 1550-1600 line in 28mm. Not bad and cheap for 28mm.

Kevin D.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:17 am
by Scrumpy
How competitive are their Catholic opponents?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:53 am
by spring
Spring, if you are playing in book, anything without Pike is going to get rolled over by all those Gendarmes, VERY, VERY quickly.
aaahh, but that's what i'm trying to figure :) is there a chance to shot down more units than what i might lose using a heavy shooting army

[rbs]Your pardon, I accidentally edited your post when trying to reply to it. Unfortunately this resulted in my deleting most of it. Sorry. :oops:

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:34 pm
by timmy1
Spring, all I will say is, despite my affinity with the Huguenots, if you want to try a Hugenot army with MF, Superior, Arquebus shot BGs without Pike, I will take the army of Guise and the Leaguers. Gendarmes, Superior Swiss, and Artillery, plus mixed foot BG of Landesnequets looks a better bet to me.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:21 pm
by rbodleyscott
Scrumpy wrote:How competitive are their Catholic opponents?
Less so out of period.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:26 pm
by rbodleyscott
spring wrote:
Spring, if you are playing in book, anything without Pike is going to get rolled over by all those Gendarmes, VERY, VERY quickly.
aaahh, but that's what i'm trying to figure :) is there a chance to shot down more units than what i might lose using a heavy shooting army
The Huguenots get lots of commanded shot.

Which, if used historically, should prevent them from being ridden down. Unless anything goes wrong.

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:28 pm
by timmy1
Richard is correct, I should have added UNLESS they are commanded shot mixed with mounted.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:46 pm
by spring
I've never seen any beta list for this period and my fog:renaissance gaming experience is rather...slim, so
i'm going to take your words and gather some informations about the Duc of Guise ^^as a possible tenth?
painting project :)
Of course a Huguenot version with lot of commanded shot migth still be fun to use. Anyway anything is good
to put pluderhosen troops on the table!

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:53 pm
by Delbruck
The Huguenots get lots of commanded shot.

Which, if used historically, should prevent them from being ridden down. Unless anything goes wrong.

What could possibly go wrong?
How are Hugenot horse classed?

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:00 pm
by rbodleyscott
Delbruck wrote:
The Huguenots get lots of commanded shot.

Which, if used historically, should prevent them from being ridden down. Unless anything goes wrong.

What could possibly go wrong?
How are Hugenot horse classed?
Lance-armed Gendarmes before 1577, Cuirassiers from 1577. (Horse, Superior, Heavily Armoured, Impact Pistol, Melee Pistol).

The commanded shot are also only from 1577.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:11 pm
by spring
Cuirassiers from 1577. (Horse, Superior, Heavily Armoured, Impact Pistol, Melee Pistol).

The commanded shot are also only from 1577.
Hum, even with many commanded shot available, i'm not sure you're going to use that many with such pricey
troops (Cuirassiers, sup...)

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:40 pm
by rbodleyscott
spring wrote:
Cuirassiers from 1577. (Horse, Superior, Heavily Armoured, Impact Pistol, Melee Pistol).

The commanded shot are also only from 1577.
Hum, even with many commanded shot available, i'm not sure you're going to use that many with such pricey
troops (Cuirassiers, sup...)
Pricey? 16 points? Pretty cheap compared with Cavaliers and Determined Horse. (Polish winged hussars are 23 points a go).

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:02 pm
by spring
Oh 16pts, i was thinking determined horse with there 21pts^^, that gives room for a good amount of
supported horses then. Still they won't get the same use as mass shooting infantry units, we''ll see
what wi'll be supported horses best use when used en masse.