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Fragmented shock troops

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:52 pm
by bawawa
Hi, my english being not so good, I'm afraid not to understand one sentence in the cohesion level and effects table p149 :
Into the Fragmented boxe, text related to the shock troops tells : "Shock troops are no longer so"....??? are no longer what ??? Fragmented ??!!! or is it related to the former sentence or something else...I'm lost !
Is someone can explain this to a poor french guy with a poor english...
Maaannnnnyyyy Thanks
Eric

Re: Fragmented shock troops

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:04 pm
by rbodleyscott
bawawa wrote:Hi, my english being not so good, I'm afraid not to understand one sentence in the cohesion level and effects table p149 :
Into the Fragmented boxe, text related to the shock troops tells : "Shock troops are no longer so"....??? are no longer what ??? Fragmented ??!!! or is it related to the former sentence or something else...I'm lost !
Is someone can explain this to a poor french guy with a poor english...
Maaannnnnyyyy Thanks
Eric
They are no longer Shock (while Fragmented)

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:05 pm
by bawawa
oooops, shame on me, actually, was really clear, but I'm so...stupid !
Thank Richard and please no comment to my english teacher !!!!
Eric

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:11 pm
by Scrumpy
I suspect your English is as good or better than a lot of our French.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:31 pm
by bawawa
Not so good as I'd like, but I'm lucky cause I have to speak english almost all the time at my office (Airbus Toulouse). So... good for the hobby...

In fact, shock troops just don't have to pass a CMT to charge while disrupted, that'it ? No "mandatory" charge if CMT missed as in FoG AM (sorry to compare, it's just to be sure !)
Friendly
Eric

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:21 pm
by rbodleyscott
bawawa wrote:Not so good as I'd like, but I'm lucky cause I have to speak english almost all the time at my office (Airbus Toulouse). So... good for the hobby...

In fact, shock troops just don't have to pass a CMT to charge while disrupted, that'it ? No "mandatory" charge if CMT missed as in FoG AM (sorry to compare, it's just to be sure !)
Yes.

So it doesn't actually make any difference them not counting as Shock troops when Fragmented - it is a fossil from FOGAM - but thankfully a harmless one. (Except in so far as it may confuse people who try to figure out why it is there).

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:36 pm
by bawawa
Excellent, I hope to play in a few months...heee...time to build an army...the question is... do I start with Early TYW Sweden or do I wait for Polish winged Hussards ? That is the question !!!!!
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:56 pm
by deadtorius
Swedes sound tough, but you have to admit those winged Hussars can look pretty good. I guess it depends on how long it will take for the Polish list to come out. Then you have to decide if you want to wait and then buy your figs or start buying on educated guesses and start painting so you can be more or less ready to go when the list is released.

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:47 pm
by shadowdragon
bawawa wrote:Excellent, I hope to play in a few months...heee...time to build an army...the question is... do I start with Early TYW Sweden or do I wait for Polish winged Hussards ? That is the question !!!!!
Friendly
Oh! Go for the panache, glamour and audacity of winged hussars. Even if you lose you'll look doing so. :)

Of course, if you have the time and money, you can have both. :wink:

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:04 am
by bawawa
shadowdragon wrote:
bawawa wrote:Excellent, I hope to play in a few months...heee...time to build an army...the question is... do I start with Early TYW Sweden or do I wait for Polish winged Hussards ? That is the question !!!!!
Friendly
Oh! Go for the panache, glamour and audacity of winged hussars. Even if you lose you'll look doing so. :)

Of course, if you have the time and money, you can have both. :wink:
Money, money, even in our hobby...it's the nerve of the war !!!!
For the winged hussards there is the amazing Legio Heroica....and for the Sweden I like Testudo even if they are a little bit taller than other model...(and a little expensive as well...)
I give my self some time to think about that.....
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:04 am
by hood_mick
Not counting as Shock whilst Fragmented makes a slight of difference. Shock Cavalry, become Cavalry and can, if they pass the test for being charged, evade.

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:45 am
by bawawa
hood_mick wrote:Not counting as Shock whilst Fragmented makes a slight of difference. Shock Cavalry, become Cavalry and can, if they pass the test for being charged, evade.
You're right assuming they are now one a 1 deep base formation....