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Hungarian=Transylvanian figure morphing
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:14 am
by Scrumpy
Would 16th century gendarmes do as the Hungarian-Transylvanian guys ? Or would their armour have been that different ?
Re: Hungarian=Transylvanian figure morphing
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:47 am
by nikgaukroger
Scrumpy wrote:Would 16th century gendarmes do as the Hungarian-Transylvanian guys ? Or would their armour have been that different ?
The list notes have "For defence they wore "Trabharnische" - basically 3/4 plate armour - at the start of this period." so perhaps a search on that would help. FWIW I suspect they won't really look like C16th gendarmes ...
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:54 am
by DanielS
Nik,
Do you know from which period the "Trabharnische" quote is? Just to confuse us the Germans changed the meaning of the word, by the end of the 16th Century it refers to a fairly light harness with helmet, breast and backplates and mail defences, also possibly gauntlets.
When used with regard to Hungarian/Transylvanian troops it refered to a distinctive typ of armour by the later 16th Century:

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:26 am
by nikgaukroger
DanielS wrote:Do you know from which period the "Trabharnische" quote is?
I assume it relates to the period of the list in WoR - can't think why Karsten would write it otherwise.
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:03 pm
by DanielS
Thanks, then the pictures I posted would be correct, earlier on I've not seen a reference to the use of trabharnisch outside the Reiters and troops who copied their equipment (such as the 1560's Swedes & Danes), also further back the word was used to denote a somewhat heavier harness.