Slitherine

Is it in book one or two anyone?

Wars of Religion: (Just from the NEWS section of this website)

LATER EIGHTY YEARS WAR DUTCH
LATER EIGHTY YEARS WAR DUTCH ALLIES
LATER IMPERIAL SPANISH
LATER IMPERIAL SPANISH ALLIES
EARLY 17TH CENTURY FRENCH
EARLY 17TH CENTURY FRENCH ALLIES
THIRTY YEARS WAR DANISH
EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN PROTESTANT
EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN PROTESTANT ALLIES
EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN CATHOLIC
EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN CATHOLIC ALLIES
HUNGARIAN-TRANSYLVANIAN
HUNGARIAN-TRANSYLVANIAN ALLIES
EARLY CAROLINE ENGLISH
EARLY CAROLINE ENGLISH ALLIES
EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR SWEDISH
EARLY THIRTY YEARS WAR SWEDISH ALLIES
LATER THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN
LATER THIRTY YEARS WAR GERMAN ALLIES
LATER THIRTY YEARS WAR SWEDISH AND WEIMARIAN
LATER THIRTY YEARS WAR SWEDISH AND WEIMARIAN ALLIES
THIRTY YEARS WAR FRENCH
THIRTY YEARS WAR PENINSULAR SPANISH
SCOTS COVENANTER
SCOTS ROYALIST
EARLY RESTORATION PORTUGUESE
CONFEDERATE IRISH
EARLY ENGLISH CIVIL WAR ROYALIST
ENGLISH CIVIL WAR PARLIAMENTARIAN
LATER ENGLISH CIVIL WAR ROYALIST
NEW MODEL ARMY
NEW MODEL ARMY ALLIES
EARLY LOUIS XIV FRENCH
EARLY LOUIS XIV FRENCH ALLIES

Trade & Treachery:

MAXIMILIAN IMPERIAL
GERMAN STATES
GERMAN STATES ALLIES
ITALIAN WARS FRENCH
ITALIAN WARS FRENCH ALLIES
TRASTÁMARA SPANISH
TRASTÁMARA SPANISH ALLIES
ITALIAN STATES
ITALIAN STATES ALLIES
ITALIAN WARS VENETIAN
ITALIAN WARS VENETIAN ALLIES
EARLY HENRICIAN ENGLISH
EARLY HENRICIAN ENGLISH ALLIES
SCOTTISH
SCOTTISH ALLIES
BORDER REIVERS
IRISH
IRISH ALLIES
ANGLO-IRISH
SWISS
SWISS ALLIES
NORTH AFRICAN STATES
PEASANT WARS
CAROLINE IMPERIALIST
CAROLINE IMPERIALIST ALLIES
LATER HENRICIAN ENGLISH
LATER HENRICIAN ENGLISH ALLIES
LATER VENETIAN
EARLY IMPERIAL SPANISH
ELIZABETHAN ENGLISH
ELIZABETHAN ENGLISH ALLIES
FRENCH WARS OF RELIGION – CATHOLIC
FRENCH WARS OF RELIGION – HUGUENOT
EARLY EIGHTY YEARS WAR DUTCH
EARLY EIGHTY YEARS WAR DUTCH ALLIES

I don't see Polish...maybe it's inside one of the other lists?

There are two Polish lists (going up to 1631) in Book 3 and another one (from 1631) in Book 5

rbodleyscott wrote:There are two Polish lists (going up to 1631) in Book 3 and another one (from 1631) in Book 5

Thamks for that

Blathergut wrote:Trade & Treachery:
BORDER REIVERS

Great I get to play my relatives, now whos got the metal Cows then?

According to Amazon UK the 3rd book is 'Clash of Empires: Eastern Europe 1494-1698' and due out Jan 2011. Again from the news section it has a couple of Polish lists

EARLY OTTOMAN TURKISH
EARLY OTTOMAN TURKISH ALLIES
HUNGARIAN
EARLY VENETIAN COLONIAL
WALLACHIAN, MOLDAVIAN AND TRANSYLVANIAN
WALLACHIAN, MOLDAVIAN OR TRANSYLVANIAN ALLIES
MAMLUK
MAMLUK ALLIES
AQ QOYUNLU TURCOMAN
ANATOLIAN EMIRATES
TATAR
TATAR ALLIES
EARLY RUSSIAN
EARLY RUSSIAN ALLIES-
EARLY POLISH
EARLY POLISH ALLIES
EARLY LITHUANIAN
KALMAR UNION
CAUCASIAN STATES
KNIGHTS OF ST JOHN
SAFAVID PERSIAN
EARLY IMPERIAL AUSTRIAN
EARLY DANISH
VASA SWEDISH
VASA SWEDISH ALLIES (1606-1610)
COSSACK
COSSACK ALLIES
LATER IMPERIAL AUSTRIAN AND GERMAN STATES
LATER IMPERIAL AUSTRIAN AND GERMAN STATES ALLIES
EARLY IMPERIAL SPANISH ALLIES
POLISH-LITHUANIAN COMMONWEALTH
POLISH-LITHUANIAN COMMONWEALTH ALLIES
LATER OTTOMAN TURKISH
LATER OTTOMAN TURKISH ALLIES
EARLY GUSTAVAN SWEDISH

david53 wrote:

Blathergut wrote:Trade & Treachery:
BORDER REIVERS

Great I get to play my relatives, now whos got the metal Cows then?

PEASANT WARS

and I get to play mine

I have the 14.1 Beta army lists as I was supposed to be playtesting but family commitments (including moving house) got in the way, sorry.
Can I use the POLISH-LITHUANIAN COMMONWEALTH Beta list vs. my TYW Swedes for now or has the final version changed too much?

If there is a more recent Beta list may I have a copy to fill in till Bk 3 comes out in January.

John Mc

John

There was a later beta list for the PLC but I can't remember how much it changed - it might have been quite a lot. Best way it to check does the points chart still have the troop types in the list. If the troops types in the v14.1 beta list are not in the points table then you can't use the list. Sorry I can be more help.

vichussar wrote:Can I use the POLISH-LITHUANIAN COMMONWEALTH Beta list vs. my TYW Swedes for now or has the final version changed too much?

They have changed a bit, but you can do whatever you like, surely? The Slitherine Secret Police won't come and arrest you.

Secret police never announce they are going to arrest you anyway do they ?

rbodleyscott wrote:

vichussar wrote:Can I use the POLISH-LITHUANIAN COMMONWEALTH Beta list vs. my TYW Swedes for now or has the final version changed too much?

They have changed a bit, but you can do whatever you like, surely? The Slitherine Secret Police won't come and arrest you.

Thanks Richard, I had assumed that now the official rules and lists were out, the NDA was cancelled for FoGR; but I am currently a playtester for FoGN and, I believe, still bound by the NDA as far as FoGN is concerned. So while the SSP is not a problem Terry might be.


John Mc

Don't suppose you could give me an idea of the more important changes to the Poles, please?

vichussar wrote:Don't suppose you could give me an idea of the more important changes to the Poles, please?

The changes appear to be quite substantial. If you give me an example army of your own (with date), I will attempt to tell you how the troops in it might change.

Will the 1630 polish army allow you to use the mixed hussar/cossack units?

gvm wrote:Will the 1630 polish army allow you to use the mixed hussar/cossack units?

No, they are not in the final versions of the lists.

Post 1631 shot with axe...

Trained killers or cheerleaders for the Wing biker boys?

Madcam

Cheerleaders, and they don't come in as early as 1632 ...

so 4 BGs of 6 (or 3 of 8???) would be enough/too many???

wondering if I need to purchase any more...

Madcam.